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如题,重读Silm+HoMe,专盯着Fingon/Maedhros感情线去了
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1楼2011-08-10 20:15回复
    Part I 未成曲调先有情
    Feanor演讲,Fingon同学初登场
    Galadriel...to rule there a realm at her own will. Of like mind with Galadriel was Fingon Fingolfin's son, being moved also by Fëanor’s words, though he loved him little
    小熊love狒狒little很正常,因为相比之下,小熊 love Maitimo more
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    Fëanor and his following were in the van, but the greater host came behind under Fingolfin; and he marched against his wisdom, because Fingon his son so urged him;
    Of those Fingon was the foremost...
    小熊你是有多担心你在前面的堂哥,你好纯朴,这种担心写满全身的感觉是多么可爱。
    but the vanguard of the Noldor were succoured by Fingon with the foremost of the host of Fingolfin, who coming up found a battle joined and their own kin falling, and rushed in before they knew rightly the cause of the quarrel
    天鹅港的悲剧“混帐他们在伤害我的Maitimo!”
    我没记错的话,是X文中小熊冲上去杀出一条血路的由来
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    Moreover Fingon and Turgon were bold and fiery of heart, and loath to abandon any task to which they had put their hands until the bitter end, if bitter it must be
    in other words,小熊既然追求堂哥,一定会追求到底绝对不会中途abandon
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    Maedhros the eldest of his sons, and on a time the friend of Fingon ere Morgoth's lies came between, spoke to Fëanor, saying: 'Now what ships and rowers will you spare to return, and whom shall they bear hither first? Fingon the valiant?'
    白菜公主问老爸,全书唯一MF倾向的一段
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    2楼2011-08-10 20:17
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      Part II 何辞向物开秦镜
      -白菜公主挂悬崖,一只小熊爬上来-
      Then Fingon the valiant, son of Fingolfin, resolved to heal the feud that divided the Noldor
      英雄的王子殿下为爱出走需要一个冠冕堂皇的理由:heal the feud that divided the Noldor家族大义放眼前,对你的爱在心间。
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      Long before, in the bliss of Valinor, before Melkor was unchained, or lies came between them, Fingon had been close in friendship with Maedhros
      你们很好,这个老托一再强调,我们都知道了。。。。
      in the bliss of Valinor,多么美好的初恋环境
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      and though he knew not yet that Maedhros had not forgotten him at the burning of the ships, the thought of their ancient friendship stung his heart.
      小熊救人时候完全不知道堂哥没有背叛自己家,那么,假如这还不是stung his heart且ancient的爱(有时也称Friendship,后面作者会不小心暴露自己同人男的本质),还能是什么。
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      Therefore he dared a deed which is Justly renowned among the feats of the princes of the Noldor: alone, and without the counsel of any, he set forth in search of Maedhros
      。。。并且滋生了后世很多YY小报
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      he took his harp and sang a song of Valinor that the Noldor made of old, before strife was born among the sons of Finwë; and his voice rang in the mournful hollows that had never heard before aught save cries of fear and woe.
      注意,这里,大英雄唱歌了,唱的是类似60年代的老歌(见某个桃子的漫);我们知道狒狒开始就不喜欢二粉三粉家,能一起唱歌的机会是不是私下约定的呢,小熊你又暴露了你们的地下恋情。
      Thus Fingon found what he sought. For suddenly above him far and faint his song was taken up, and a voice answering called to him.
      这句:Fingon found what he sought: his beloved
      这句脑补完毕。
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      提示:老托另一对唱歌救爱人,爱人用歌声应答的坎是Beren和Luthien
      还需要解释吗?
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      3楼2011-08-10 20:32
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        But Fingon climbed to the foot of the precipice...,and then could go no further; and he wept when he saw the cruel device of Morgoth.
        男儿有泪不轻弹。这里小熊哭了
        不内涵地说,这位英雄王子殿,妹妹死、老爸死的时候没哭,三粉家堂弟perish的时候没有任何表示。
        但是看到堂哥受到的折磨,他内牛满面。
        Maedhros therefore, being in anguish without hope, begged Fingon to shoot him with his bow; and Fingon strung an arrow, and bent his bow. And seeing no better hope he cried to Manwë, saying: 'O King to whom all birds are dear, speed now this feathered shaft, and recall some pity for the Noldor in their need!'
        堂哥只求速死,这里小熊必定依然含泪握弓(白菜的要求对冒险前来的小熊真的很残忍。
        其实小熊完全可以拒绝说,“我不想杀你,我会再想办法。”
        但是他很可能从来没有对自己心爱的堂哥说过一个“不”字,这个在以后依然会提到)。
        然后cried to Manwe的内容:recall some pity for the Noldor in their need
        Noldor in their need,是复数。
        而在这里的Noldor只有他们两个
        翻译成白话就是:满胃大王你瞎眼了!!快拯救我们这对王道CP!!!
        


        4楼2011-08-10 20:43
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          我看到大王又在试图证明自己的母系血缘了~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~w


          5楼2011-08-10 20:50
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            Now, even as Fingon bent his bow, there flew down from the high airs Thorondor, King of Eagles, mightiest of all birds that have ever been, whose outstretched wings spanned thirty fathoms; and staying Fingon's hand he took him up, and bore him to the face of the rock where Maedhros hung.
            “在喜鹊的帮助下,我们的仙女王子和爱人经过多年的分离,终于面对面地相会了”
            抱歉,我刚从鹊桥相会的片场回来。
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            But Fingon could not release the hell-wrought bond upon his wrist, nor sever it, nor draw it from the stone. Again therefore in his pain Maedhros begged that he would slay him; but Fingon cut off his hand above the wrist, and Thorondor bore them back to Mithrim.
            这里是白菜公主的第二次求死,推测小熊砍不动手铐是一个原因,白菜公主受到的(某种视觉意义上的)折磨,是另一个原因。
            这里小熊没有犹豫,没有疑惑,他怎么会杀他。
            (NC虐文去死。为虐而虐的小白文去死。)
            这一CP之所以成为长久传唱的CP,是因为CP的双方都在努力地自我拯救。
            直到无可挽回的那一天,他们会一直相爱。
            


            6楼2011-08-10 21:00
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              你这是红果果的嫉妒


              7楼2011-08-10 21:01
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                Ah!握弓那个分析得好精辟!是说HoME4里面那个Finweg救梅子的段子我总觉得有点鬼畜,果然就是缺乏对乖小熊的详细描写的原因……


                来自掌上百度8楼2011-08-10 21:04
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                  Ah!觉得握弓那个分析得好精辟!是说HoME4里面那个Finweg救梅子的段子我总觉得有点鬼畜,果然就是缺乏对乖小熊的详细描写的原因……


                  来自掌上百度9楼2011-08-10 21:05
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                    to 8L:感谢!(一直觉得老托常一笔带过的Fingon其实就是另一个英勇救夫的Luthien……)
                    otz我又错了,逆CP了
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                    There Maedhros in time was healed; for the fire of life was hot within him, and his strength was of the ancient world, such as those possessed who were nurtured in Valinor. His body recovered from his torment and became hale, but the shadow of his pain was in his heart; and he lived to wield his sword with left hand more deadly than his right had been.
                    老托还是比较疼爱白菜公主的,原文的公主在小熊(他爸)的驻地恢复了神采和一切,小熊功不可没。
                    他won great renown, 并且all the Noldor praised him
                    你们一族还能再腐一点么。
                    以下是HoMe中揭露教授同人男本质的一句
                    Thus he rescued his friend of old from torment, and their love was renewed; and the hatred between the houses of Fingolfin and Feanor was assuaged
                    (The War of the Jewels, Part 1, The Grey Annals)
                    按前文所述,两家长子其实在任·何·时·刻·都·从·未·忘·记·的 (看似CJ的)"friendship", 以love的形式renew了;这才是上面那句的真正含义
                    


                    10楼2011-08-10 21:17
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                      >>>这一CP之所以成为长久传唱的CP,是因为CP的双方都在努力地自我拯救。
                      >>>直到无可挽回的那一天,他们会一直相爱。

                      不带写个吐槽文都虐到我!!!!大王!!!!


                      11楼2011-08-10 21:24
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                        两家长子其实在任·何·时·刻·都·从·未·忘·记·的 (看似CJ的)"friendship", 以love的形式renew了
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                        噗哈哈哈哈哈,可以的


                        12楼2011-08-10 21:25
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                          天鹅港的悲剧“混帐他们在伤害我的Maitimo!”
                          我没记错的话,是X文中小熊冲上去杀出一条血路的由来
                          我看到这里就笑死了……


                          IP属地:北京13楼2011-08-10 21:34
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                            to 桃子: 你看,你懂的
                            谢谢13L白蝶大人支持,大人的白菜公主最美了
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                            For Maedhros begged forgiveness for the desertion in Araman; and he waived his claim to kingship over all the Noldor, saying to Fingolfin: 'If there lay no grievance between us, lord, still the kingship would rightly come to you, the eldest here of the house of Finwë, and not the least wise.'
                            同Beren的Empty hand一样,这里的Maedhros也一手空空地对岳父大人(我又逆自己CP了!不过,必须看在老托笔下的女性角色都比较强势的份上《--我在说什么。总之你们懂的)交出了身上能拥有的一切:王权。
                            并且这里开始有展现白菜公主作为diplomat的才能,这番话说得心情岳父大人舒畅。
                            就像Thingol大王和Beren最后也能做朋友的份上,Lord二粉接过了白菜公主的馈赠。
                            But to this his brothers did not all in their hearts agree.
                            白菜公主的弟弟们的反应:美丽的大公主嫁出去的嫁妆这么丰盛(几乎是抄了狒狒家家底),弟弟们必须是不开心的;因为以后他们家的帅哥都会很难嫁了。
                            这是被菜公主骂出去卡兰少爷拼命敛财的一个原因。


                            14楼2011-08-10 21:47
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                              这里要感谢一下软体的神文,促使我去钻研了订婚。
                              ==============原文是这样的=====
                              In due time the betrothal was announced at a meeting of the two houses concerned, and the betrothed gave silver rings one to another. According to the laws of the Eldar this betrothal was bound then to stand for one year at least
                              ===============摘抄自LACE====================
                              现在我们知道为什么白菜公主会离开去往Himring了。他们遵守了这个法规.
                              维持至少一年的订婚关系,简单说来四个字:婚前分居。
                              现在我们也知道为什么(再)团结大会(Mereth Aderthad, the Feast of Reuniting,再次感谢软体的神翻译)上,处于最前线的公主会在二弟的陪同下前来,以及小熊和公主在这个大会上的关系是密不可分了。
                              At Mereth Aderthad many counsels were taken in good will, and oaths were sworn of league and friendship
                              这个欲盖弥彰的Friendship又来了。
                              反正白菜公主和小熊王子履行完了婚前的职责……下面要做的就是——
                              “同好自行想象”
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                              未完待续
                              


                              15楼2011-08-10 22:16
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