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Duff: On writing and rehearsing for UseYour Illusion: Axl did finally show up in Chicago. It was a little too late. He got there, got into a fight with a girl he had befriended, and trashed the place where we were living. That happened the day Izzy showed up. Already nervous because of his court-mandated sobriety, Izzy came upstairs, took onelook at all the damage Axl had just wrought (not to mention the various powders all over the place), and hightailed it the **** out of there. He would stillsend riffs and ideas for Use Your Illusion and didn't officially quit until 1991, but his day-to-day involvement with the band pretty much died that day[Duff's autobiography, "It's So Easy", 2011, p. 153]
Duff谈到创作和排练UYI专辑:Chicago那一次Axl最后还是出现了,只是有点太晚了。他到了之后,跟他认识的一个女孩吵了起来,然后把我们住的地方搞得乱七八糟。而那天Izzy正好来了。Izzy已经因为戒毒戒酒的事情精神非常紧张了,他上了楼,站在楼上看了一眼Axl搞出来的乱子(更不用提到处都是、各种各样的酒了),然后转头就走。他还继续给我们发来UYI的Riff和想法,直到1991年才正式退出,但他日常参与乐队活动的行为基本上就在那一天消失殆尽了。[Duff's autobiography, "It's So Easy", 2011, p. 153]


34楼2017-06-23 12:19
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    Duff: Izzy had all but checked out [Duff'sautobiography, "It's So Easy", 2011, p. 154]
    Duff:Izzy当时除了正式提出以外,和退出没什么区别了。Duff: Izzy had all but checked out [Duff's autobiography, "It'sSo Easy", 2011, p. 154]


    35楼2017-06-23 12:20
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      Axl: Izzy was gonna quit at one timebecause he didn't like the way people were reacting to [the lyrics of Appetitefor Destruction] [Famous Last Words, MTV, 1990]
      Axl:Izzy总有一天会离开的,因为他不喜欢人们对AFD歌词的反应。[Famous Last Words, MTV, 1990]


      36楼2017-06-23 12:21
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        Duff: Izzy had gotten sober for good bythis stage [late 1989], and he kept his distance from [Slash and I]. During thesongwriting process [for Illusions], he would send us homemade cassette tapesof his songs and ideas. There was no animosity about his reluctance to come torehearsals, and his songs - like 'Pretty Tied Up' and 'Double Talkin' Jive' -were great [Duff's autobiography, "It's So Easy, 2011, p. 162-163]
        Duff: Izzy在这个时候(1989后期)已经戒毒了,并且一直跟Slash和我保持距离。在给UYI写歌的过程中,他会给我们寄过来自己录的磁带,里面有他的歌和想法。他不愿意来排练并不是因为憎恶,而且他的歌——比如说'Pretty Tied Up'和'Double Talkin' Jive'——也都很好。[Duff's autobiography, "It's So Easy, 2011, p. 162-163]


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          Axl: Izzy basically has five homes (?) and every time you're looking for Izzy you find he's in Mexico, or in London, or hedrove to Texas or up in Yellowstone or something. He is always somewhere[Famous Last Words, MTV, 1990]
          Axl:Izzy大概有五个家,而且你每次找他他都在墨西哥、伦敦、或者在开车去德州的路上,再或者准备去黄石公园什么的。他总是到处乱跑。[Famous Last Words, MTV, 1990]


          38楼2017-06-23 12:22
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            Slash: The problem was with Izzy. Becausethe album [the UYI's] reached such gargantuan proportions as far as the productionand complexity and the massive expectations [that] Izzy started to bow out. He was harder to find, because that was against his rock 'n' roll philosophy,which I totally agree with. We got through the basic tracks and I think that'swhat gave the albums such a natural fee. But when we started getting into the time it took to do overdubs and vocals, he sorta disappeared [Double Vision,Total Guitar Magazine, July 2011]
            Slash:问题出在Izzy身上。因为UYI专辑不管是在制作上、复杂性上还是歌迷期待上都达到了一个非常高的高度,所以Izzy开始承受不住了。他更不好联系上了,因为这(UYI专辑)和他的摇滚哲学不符,我也非常同意这一点。我们录好了基本的音轨,而且我认为正是这些部分给予了专辑灵魂。但是当我们开始花时间开始做加录部分和人声时,他就不见了。[Double Vision, Total Guitar Magazine, July 2011]


            39楼2017-06-23 12:25
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              Slash: Recounting the first rehearsals withMatt: Izzy was around, but not like he used to be. Not only was he 100 percent sober, he was also very much anti-alcohol and antidrugs at that point. WhenIzzy met Matt they got along fine, but it was under the condition that thedecision had already been made: it was all okay, but I think Izzy felt dictatedto - and he hated that. Izzy was pretty fragile from the time he came back tothe band until he left, and as I look back, this whole shift probably didn'tsit entirely well with him [Bozza, Anthony, & Slash (2007). Slash. HarperEntertainment: New York, p.311]
              Slash回忆第一次和Matt排练:Izzy在现场,但他不像以前那样了。他不仅完全清醒了,而且非常反感酒精和毒品。当Izzy和Matt见面的时候他们相处得还不错,但Matt加入这件事是当时(没经过他同意)就已经决定的了:决定本身倒没什么,但是我认为Izzy觉得被人左右了——他非常讨厌这种事。Izzy从(戒毒后)回到乐队直到离开乐队的这段时间里非常脆弱,而且当我回头看的时候,我认为他并不是很适应突然戒毒这件事情。[Bozza, Anthony, & Slash (2007). Slash. Harper Entertainment:New York, p.311]


              40楼2017-06-23 12:27
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                Matt: Izzy just doesn't dig [drugs] at allanymore. He don't dig the drinking, even [The Vox, 1991]
                Matt:Izzy完全不碰毒品了。他甚至连酒都不碰了。[The Vox, 1991]
                【这是我特别佩服Izzy的一点……说不碰就不碰了,这人对自己是有多狠,相比Steven,哎


                41楼2017-06-23 12:29
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                  Axl: It's Izzy's goal to be Mr. Invisible[Guns N’ Roses – Outta Control; Rolling Stone September 5th 1991]
                  Axl:Izzy的目标就是成为隐形人。[GunsN’ Roses – Outta Control; Rolling Stone September 5th 1991]


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                    Slash: Izzy, unfortunately, was shell-shocked [from the Illusions tour]; he was trying his best to keep far away from our whole partying scene, so that tour from the start wasn't as muchfun for him [Bozza, Anthony, & Slash (2007). Slash. Harper Entertainment:New York, p.335]
                    Slash:很不幸的是,UYI巡演让Izzy的精神非常紧张;他竭尽全力地远离我们的派对,所以这整个巡演从一开始对他来说就没什么意思了。[Bozza, Anthony, & Slash (2007). Slash. Harper Entertainment:New York, p.335]


                    43楼2017-06-23 12:31
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                      Duff: Izzy's sobriety functioned only if hetraveled separately and stayed in different hotels from us. I had gotten usedto not having him around, but it was still a blow to the band. [...] Theperception in popular culture is that the singer and the lead guitar player aregenerally the artistic brain trust of any band. In our case, Izzy was probablythe most significant force - without his initial vision and his songwritingcues, there would have been no Guns N' Roses. He and I still had our timetogether on the right side of the stage. But those moments made me think Izzywas extremely uncomfortable with the way we were treating our fans [Duff'sautobiography, "It's So Easy", 2011, p. 185]
                      Duff:Izzy只有在和我们分开上路、住在不同酒店的情况下才能保证自己不复吸。我已经习惯了他不在的情况了,但是这件事对乐队依然有很大影响。……在大众心里,一般主唱和主音吉他才是乐队里的灵魂人物,而对我们而言,Izzy大概才是最重要的力量——没有他的初稿和写歌想法,GNR就不复存在了。他和我依然会一起站在舞台右边,但是这些时候总让我觉得Izzy对我们对待歌迷的方式非常不舒服。[Duff's autobiography, "It's So Easy", 2011, p. 185]


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                        Slash: We went on late [Mannheim, Germany,on August 21, 1991] - late even for us - then, pretty early in the set,something happened and Axl walked off for what reason I have no idea. (...) Hewent to to the van and headed off to the dressing room. "Fuck thatguy," [Matt] said. "I'm gonna go straighten him out." Matt feltthat Duff and Izzy and I had played it too delicate with Axl for too long(...). By this point we'd discovered that Axl's van had not left for thedressing room; he was sitting in it but refused to come out and return to thestage. So Matt went down to Axl's van to rally him, but as he got down there,he ran into Axl, who had emerged to head back to the stage. "What the ****are you doing?" Matt yelled. "Get back onstage!"(...) Axl wentback to his van, and it didn't look like he was coming out again. (...) Thelocal police were already there in riot gear, ready to deal with a full-onsituation. It was a scary, tense scene, and a very near miss. We got Axl backonstage once he realized he had no choice, and the rest of the show went asplanned. All I remember thinking as I walked offstage after the encore was'Fuck, that was close.' Well, too close, as it turned out: by the next morning,Izzy sent a message through Alan [Niven] informing usthat he was quitting the band [Bozza, Anthony, & Slash (2007). Slash.Harper Entertainment: New York, p.343-344]
                        Slash:(1991年8月21日德国曼海姆演唱会)我们迟到了——即使对我们来说都很晚了——然后演出刚开始没多久,不知道为什么Axl就离开了舞台。……他上了车,出发回更衣室。“操【】他【】妈【】的,”Matt说,“我要去把他这臭毛病改过来。”Matt觉得Duff、Izzy、还有我一直以来都太过于让着Axl了。……这个时候我们发现Axl的车并没有出发去更衣室;他坐在车里,但是拒绝出来,也拒绝再上台去。所以Matt跑到Axl的车那边想去试图说服他,但正当他往那边去的时候,他正好撞上了(从车里出来)想回到台上的Axl。“***在搞什么?”Matt吼道,“快点回台上去!”……(然后Axl就又回车里了)……当地警察已经全副武装做好了应对暴乱的准备,真的挺吓人的,情况非常紧张,一触即发。当Axl意识到他除了回去之外别无选择,他最终还是上台了,后面的演出就和计划的一样。我记得结束后当我走下台时,我满脑子都是“我靠,就差那么一点。”但实际上,还是过了,因为第二天早上Izzy就通过Alan(乐队经理)告诉我们他要退出了。[Bozza, Anthony, & Slash (2007). Slash. Harper Entertainment:New York, p.343-344]


                        45楼2017-06-23 12:35
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                          Axl: There were certain things we weren'tgetting from Izzy that we really wanted, and everybody was like giving acertain amount, and we felt that everybody should give energy in a certain way to Guns N' Roses, and we weren't getting that [The making of November Rain,1991?]
                          Axl:我们没法从Izzy那里得到一些我们需要的东西。每个人都在出力,而且我们觉得每个人都应该分出精力给GNR,但我们并没有从Izzy那里得到这种付出。[The making of November Rain, 1991?]


                          46楼2017-06-23 12:36
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                            Duff: I knew now [after Mannheim, Germany,August 24, 1991] that Izzy was definitely going to quit, but nobody knew forsure when he would actually leave us. Izzy didn't walk away and force thecancellation of the Wembley show [August 31, 1991]. He stayed and played onelast gig to draw the curtains on this leg of the tour [Duff's autobiography,"It's So Easy", 2011, p. 194]
                            Duff:现在(曼海姆演唱会之后)我知道Izzy是一定会离开的,但是没人确定他什么时候会真正离开。Izzy并没有直接离开,没有让Wembley的演出取消。他留下了,演奏完了巡演的最后一场。[Duff's autobiography, "It's So Easy", 2011, p. 194]


                            47楼2017-06-23 12:38
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                              Duff: I could see right there and then[when the Oslo gig in August, 1991, was cancelled because Axl was in France]that Izzy wasn't going to last. The cadence of his walk was different now: Isaw it clearly as the lurch of a bicycle with a misshapen wheel. His face wasdrawn, his eyes blank, his body language exhausted. He had made it with us,sober, touring. But he couldn't stand pissing off the fans and torturing the crew. He had to confront that reality sober. And at the same time he had to dealwith Slash, Matt, and me trying to bury our frustrations by obliteratingourselves with drunk and drugs. It was only a matter of time now [Duff'sautobiography, "It's So Easy", 2011, p. 191]
                              Duff:那时候(1991年奥斯陆演唱会,因为Axl人在法国被取消了)我知道的一清二楚,Izzy不会再留在乐队里面了。他走路的节奏都不一样了:在我看来他走路的姿势就像一个轮胎变形、歪歪扭扭的自行车。他脸色憔悴,眼神空洞,整个人看起来精疲力尽。他还是跟我们一起坚持着,戒了毒,日复一日的巡演。但是他不能忍受我们激怒观众、折磨工作人员。他不得不清醒着面对这一切。而且与此同时他还得忍受Slash、Matt还有我持续不断地通过酒精和毒品来消除内心的沮丧的行为。[Duff's autobiography, "It's So Easy", 2011, p. 191]


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