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So how much of the episode was true to form from an intelligence perspective, and how much of it was pure Hollywood? We checked in with the International Spy Museum’s historian and curator, Dr. Vince Houghton, for Speakeasy’s weekly series on what “Homeland” gets right, and where its accuracy falls short.
So how much of the episode was true to form from an intelligence perspective, and how much of it was pure Hollywood? We checked in with the International Spy Museum’s historian and curator, Dr. Vince Houghton, for Speakeasy’s weekly series on what “Homeland” gets right, and where its accuracy falls short.
巴尔干半岛确实是向欧洲运输武器的必经之地
I’m happy they have the quasi-subplot in the Balkans. I don’t know why Peter Quinn has to be there – there’s no reason to bring him along if the jihadists are going back to Berlin, but I guess he’s there so we can see what’s going on. It’s interesting because the Balkans have been somewhat of a gateway and conduit for weapons and training for jihadists who work into Europe. Since the war there in the early Nineties, when a lot of former mujahideen from Afghanistan went there to fight against the Serbs and the Croatians on the side of the Bosniaks (the Muslims), weapons flowed there from everywhere. Some from Iran, some from Saudi Arabia, and right now you have it as a lawless place where, if you want to bring weapons and train soldiers into Europe, the Balkans are your gateway. It’s most likely that the Paris attackers got their weapons through the Balkans, just because there is so much army-surplus weaponry there, former Soviet weapons. So it makes a lot of sense that the “Homeland” jihadists would go there. In this case, it’s not for guns or anything, but they’re really hinting at that they went there to get CBRN weapons – chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear weapons. It’s realistic to assume that they can get just about anything they wanted to in the Balkans short of a nuclear weapon.
I’m happy they have the quasi-subplot in the Balkans. I don’t know why Peter Quinn has to be there – there’s no reason to bring him along if the jihadists are going back to Berlin, but I guess he’s there so we can see what’s going on. It’s interesting because the Balkans have been somewhat of a gateway and conduit for weapons and training for jihadists who work into Europe. Since the war there in the early Nineties, when a lot of former mujahideen from Afghanistan went there to fight against the Serbs and the Croatians on the side of the Bosniaks (the Muslims), weapons flowed there from everywhere. Some from Iran, some from Saudi Arabia, and right now you have it as a lawless place where, if you want to bring weapons and train soldiers into Europe, the Balkans are your gateway. It’s most likely that the Paris attackers got their weapons through the Balkans, just because there is so much army-surplus weaponry there, former Soviet weapons. So it makes a lot of sense that the “Homeland” jihadists would go there. In this case, it’s not for guns or anything, but they’re really hinting at that they went there to get CBRN weapons – chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear weapons. It’s realistic to assume that they can get just about anything they wanted to in the Balkans short of a nuclear weapon.
达叔，你说你听不清水流背后的声音，你欺负我读书少么？
Going Rogue
This is not big at all, but there is that line from Dar Adal talking about not being able to hear what Saul Berenson said inside the hotel room, saying how there’s a two-and-a-half-minute gap in the tape because he turned on the faucet in the bathroom. It’s complete and utter nonsense. Unless they took a time machine back to the 1950s, they have audio-surveillance capabilities that can get through running water. It’s an issue because it’s a major plot point that they’re going to hang this “it was two-and-a-half minutes of blank tape” ridiculousness on. In an episode that got so much else right, this element really stood out, because they obviously did their homework for everything else.
Going Rogue
This is not big at all, but there is that line from Dar Adal talking about not being able to hear what Saul Berenson said inside the hotel room, saying how there’s a two-and-a-half-minute gap in the tape because he turned on the faucet in the bathroom. It’s complete and utter nonsense. Unless they took a time machine back to the 1950s, they have audio-surveillance capabilities that can get through running water. It’s an issue because it’s a major plot point that they’re going to hang this “it was two-and-a-half minutes of blank tape” ridiculousness on. In an episode that got so much else right, this element really stood out, because they obviously did their homework for everything else.
第三件，达叔，Saul，Allison滴审问
达叔出于政治上的考虑，并木有马上起诉Allison。发现如此高位滴间谍，不仅仅会影响国会，媒体，而且会严重影响CIA内部。过去就有“剑桥五杰”让CIA内部猜疑无度，人心惶惶滴例子。
辣么，如果把Allison撤职带回总部起诉呢？再想从她那里问出情报，就要有律师有法庭有繁琐滴程序。。。
Special Case File: The Dar Adal/Saul/Allison Interrogation
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So Dar is correct that there are political considerations behind not prosecuting Allison right there and not making a big stink about it. There would be issues with the Russian penetration at this level, certainly back at Congress and in the press. There also would be issues within the agency. They don’t actually talk about this, but there are real repercussions to finding out somebody at that level is a spy. One of the good analogies I can bring up is Kim Philby, who was at the highest levels of British intelligence, and was outed as a Soviet agent. It almost broke the CIA to pieces. The head of counterintelligence at the CIA, a guy named James Angleton, was friends with Philby, and he trained him. When he realized he had been deceived by Philby, he basically took a flamethrower to the CIA. It set it back years, where it was almost like a Red Scare inside the CIA, where no one was above suspicion, and everyone was looking over their shoulder. So with someone this highly placed, there’s a lot of considerations that have to be taken into account when you take them down. Aldrich Ames is the highest placed CIA officer who turned out to be a spy, and he wasn’t to the level of Allison. Allison is higher than Ames even was, and Ames caused a lot of confused moments at Langley, a lot of soul-searching there. It’s not just what the press will think, or what the politicians will think. This could have real implications for the agency at large.
Now, that being said, Dar’s argument that Allison could’ve been pulled as station chief and sent back to Langley and the counterintelligence would get ahold of her? This is problematic as well, not because of what Dar is doing, but because of what Saul has done, the whole bad-cop interrogation thing. The minute you start thinking about handing this over to the counterintelligence people, you make it a law-enforcement decision. So that’s when all the due process stuff comes in, that’s when you want to start thinking about why Allison doesn’t have a lawyer, and why she hasn’t been read her rights. Because at this point, anything she says to Saul or anybody else is inadmissible in a court of law, and that’s where you’d want to prosecute her. Ames and Robert Hanssen and Ana Montes and all these people who were part of intelligence in the United States and were spying for somebody else? They all were prosecuted in a court of law in front of a jury of their peers, with lawyers, with due process. Allison is not just going to disappear, that’s very Hollywood. For Allison to be justly punished, she would go to prison, and you don’t send Saul in there to near-strangle her. Even if Dar didn’t know that was going to happen, if you truly think you’re going to get information from her, you need to read her her rights and give her a lawyer.
达叔出于政治上的考虑，并木有马上起诉Allison。发现如此高位滴间谍，不仅仅会影响国会，媒体，而且会严重影响CIA内部。过去就有“剑桥五杰”让CIA内部猜疑无度，人心惶惶滴例子。
辣么，如果把Allison撤职带回总部起诉呢？再想从她那里问出情报，就要有律师有法庭有繁琐滴程序。。。
Special Case File: The Dar Adal/Saul/Allison Interrogation
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So Dar is correct that there are political considerations behind not prosecuting Allison right there and not making a big stink about it. There would be issues with the Russian penetration at this level, certainly back at Congress and in the press. There also would be issues within the agency. They don’t actually talk about this, but there are real repercussions to finding out somebody at that level is a spy. One of the good analogies I can bring up is Kim Philby, who was at the highest levels of British intelligence, and was outed as a Soviet agent. It almost broke the CIA to pieces. The head of counterintelligence at the CIA, a guy named James Angleton, was friends with Philby, and he trained him. When he realized he had been deceived by Philby, he basically took a flamethrower to the CIA. It set it back years, where it was almost like a Red Scare inside the CIA, where no one was above suspicion, and everyone was looking over their shoulder. So with someone this highly placed, there’s a lot of considerations that have to be taken into account when you take them down. Aldrich Ames is the highest placed CIA officer who turned out to be a spy, and he wasn’t to the level of Allison. Allison is higher than Ames even was, and Ames caused a lot of confused moments at Langley, a lot of soul-searching there. It’s not just what the press will think, or what the politicians will think. This could have real implications for the agency at large.
Now, that being said, Dar’s argument that Allison could’ve been pulled as station chief and sent back to Langley and the counterintelligence would get ahold of her? This is problematic as well, not because of what Dar is doing, but because of what Saul has done, the whole bad-cop interrogation thing. The minute you start thinking about handing this over to the counterintelligence people, you make it a law-enforcement decision. So that’s when all the due process stuff comes in, that’s when you want to start thinking about why Allison doesn’t have a lawyer, and why she hasn’t been read her rights. Because at this point, anything she says to Saul or anybody else is inadmissible in a court of law, and that’s where you’d want to prosecute her. Ames and Robert Hanssen and Ana Montes and all these people who were part of intelligence in the United States and were spying for somebody else? They all were prosecuted in a court of law in front of a jury of their peers, with lawyers, with due process. Allison is not just going to disappear, that’s very Hollywood. For Allison to be justly punished, she would go to prison, and you don’t send Saul in there to near-strangle her. Even if Dar didn’t know that was going to happen, if you truly think you’re going to get information from her, you need to read her her rights and give her a lawyer.
