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1楼2010-12-16 08:29回复
    作者:野猪的外公   发表日期:2010-12-5 8:55:00
        
         雅虎加拿大今天头条就是中国高铁破纪录的新闻,于是引起了北美JY和FF的混战! 原文如下:
    BEIJING, China - A Chinese passenger train hit a record speed of 302 miles per hour (486 kilometres per hour) Friday during a test run of a yet-to-be opened link between Beijing and Shanghai, state media said.
    The Xinhua News Agency said it was the fastest speed recorded by an unmodified conventional commercial train. Other types of trains in other countries have travelled faster.
    A specially modified French TGV train reached 357.2 mph (574.8 kph) during a 2007 test, while a Japanese magnetically levitated train sped to 361 mph (581 kph) in 2003.
    State television footage showed the sleek white train whipping past green farm fields in eastern China. It reached the top speed on a segment of the 824-mile (1,318-kilometre) -long line between Zaozhuang city in Shandong province and Bengbu city in Anhui province, Xinhua said.
        
         The line is due to open in 2012 and will halve the current travel time between the capital Beijing and Shanghai to five hours.
        
         The project costs $32.5 billion and is part of a massive government effort to link many of China’’s cities by high-speed rail and reduce overcrowding on heavily used lines.
        
         China already has the world’’s longest high-speed rail network, and it plans to cover 8,125 miles (13,000 kilometres) by 2012 and 10,000 miles (16,000 kilometres) by 2020.
        
         The drive to develop high-speed rail technology rivals China’’s space program in terms of national pride and importance. Railway officials say they want to reach speeds over 500 kph (312 mph).


    2楼2010-12-16 08:31
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      作者:野猪的外公   回复日期:2010-12-05   10:29:56     
           The Chinese can build at whatever quality level we in North America desire... unfortunately, the majority of us slack jawed yokels want the cheapest crap imaginable.
          
           We go to WalMart to save money on essential items, then cant resist some impulse purchases ("ohhhh, isnt it cute" or "what a deal, Ill buy it even if I dont really need it"). So the Chinese are making EXACTLY what we stupid westerners want, which is CHEAP CRAP and we are NOT saving money when we buy it.
          
           Its worth mentioning that the majority of stuff purchased at the likes of WalMart/Target etc. ends up in a landfill within months of purchase... usually because it breaks or fails to perform at an acceptable level.
          
           If you dont want CHEAP CRAP from CHINA then STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT AND STOP BUYING IT!!!!!!!!
           中国人能根据我们北美人的意愿造出任何质量的东西,不幸的是,我们这里有太多的乡巴佬,只需要便宜货.我们去沃尔玛是为了买便宜货,但是老是太冲动(Oh,这真酷,太划算了,就算我不需要也应该买).所以中国人对我们这种西方SB的心态抓得很准.我们买这些廉价劣质的垃圾根本就省不了钱.不得不说的是,在沃尔玛买的大部分东西,因为产品的寿命到期,几个月后都是以仍进垃圾桶而告终的.如果你不需要垃圾货,就别买,买了就别抱怨
      


      3楼2010-12-16 08:35
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        作者:换个马甲好难   回复日期:2010-12-05   10:42:43     
             We could; and should have high speed rail service in the United States. Other countries have it; and are highly sucessfull. Why then; doesnt the United States have a rail system in place that would benefit a majority of Americans? Two words. Big Oil. At the end of WW2; L.A. had the very best rail system in the country; bar none. So what happened? The oil companies at the time colluded together; bought all the local transit compamies; ripped out the tracks; and started paving roads. End result. L.A. resembles the worlds biggest parking lot at rush hour.
             我们美国能,也应该有这样的高速铁路系统。别的国家有了,而且做得非常成功。为什么美国不能有这样的便利于大多数美国人的铁路系统?原因就是:石油巨头。二战后,洛杉矶曾经有非常好的铁路系统,无一例外的。然而什么发生了?石油公司勾结到一起,买下了几乎本地所有的铁路公司,拆除铁轨,开始铺路。结果就是,洛杉矶在上下班时间里就像一个超级大停车场
        


        4楼2010-12-16 08:37
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          作者:换个马甲好难   回复日期:2010-12-05   10:59:55     
               China almost conquered the world as it was known over a thousand years ago. They opted for isolation and all new developments in science and engineering ceased. They had already invented the things we take for granted today. They are a waking giant and new, bigger and better things will flow from China in the yerars to come. Anyone who thinks they are stupid, is himself stupid. They dont have to steal from the West. They are well capable of developing on their own. When they "steal", they are only following the principal of "not re-inventing the wheel".
               中国就像它一千多年前一样,几乎战胜了全世界。他们选择了独立,然后几乎所有的科技建筑新发明都停止了。他们已经发明了我们今天认为理所当然的东西。他们是一个逐渐苏醒的巨人,而且将会有更多的更新,更大,更好的东西被中国生产出来。如果还有谁认为他们愚蠢的话,他自己就是个蠢货。他们没有从西方偷走什么东西。他们有很好的能力来发展他们自己。就算他们“偷”,他们也遵循着“要创新”的原则
          


          5楼2010-12-16 08:39
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            作者:野猪的外公   回复日期:2010-12-05   11:55:15     
                 Japanese helped chinese to build fast train system in Summer Olympic, Chinese just copy Japanese train technology, and say it to the world it their own technology. Chinese Government is awful.
                 中国在奥运会期间的的铁路系统是日本人帮助建的,中国人只是拷贝了日本人的列车技术,然后向世界宣传这是他们的技术.中丅国ZF真是糟糕.
                 以下是回复:
                 So what
                 那又怎么样?
                 One of the reasons China will rule the future, Building infrastructure. Too many of the early industrialised countries are still relying on old tech and can't afford or are unwilling to upgrade. China is basically building from the ground up and using the past success and failures of other countries as a guildline. Just smart. If I was going to start a business I'd look at all my rivals first.
                 为什么说中国会统治世界,其中的一个原因就是他们的基础设施建设.太多的老牌工业国家还对老技术恋恋不舍,要么就没钱开发,或者不愿意更新技术.中国人利用他国成功和失败的经验对国家进行彻底的建设.这样很聪明,如果我要创业,我肯定要先看看我的竞争对手
                 Can you provide evidence?
                 What is wrong if indeed Japanese introduced the first train and the Chinese built on this and made improvement? Isn't this how progresses are made?
                 你这样说有证据目有?如果中国人从日本引进技术,然后在此之上进行改进有何不可?技术本来就是这样发展的.
                 The west stole a lot of their technology too. You think the USA would of made it to the moon without the Germans? Think nuclear reactors would exist today without Einstein?
                 Electricity without Tesla? The telephone without Bell? You probably still think Bell was educated in Canada.
                 西方人同样也偷了不少技术.你觉得米国人没有德国人的帮助就能登月?你认为没有爱因斯坦世界上就会有核反应堆? 你认为没有特斯拉就会有电?没有贝尔就会有电话?难道你真认为贝尔是在加拿大接受教育的?
            


            6楼2010-12-16 08:44
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              作者:换个马甲好难   回复日期:2010-12-05   10:29:47     
                   Imagine how many jobs we can get from a project like that her in the US. Instead of wasting money on illegal wars, we can have high speed rails across the country.
                  
                   设想一下如果在美国开展这样的工程的话会多出多少工作机会。。。如果不是在非法战争上浪费钱,我们也能拥有这样的覆盖全境的高速列车


              9楼2010-12-16 08:51
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                10楼2010-12-16 08:54
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                  作者:换个马甲好难   回复日期:2010-12-05   10:30:51     
                       Even Brazil gets their by 2016, were headed for Rome folks!
                      
                       就连巴西都要在2016年开展这样的工程了。。。我们在走罗马人的老路


                  12楼2010-12-16 09:04
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                    作者:换个马甲好难   回复日期:2010-12-05   10:37:16     
                         A few years ago I took an amtrack train from Sacramento to Los Angeles (430 miles) it took 15 hours. Maybe the Chinese can teach us how to improve our transportation system
                        
                         几年前我曾经搭乘一个水陆两用的火车从萨克拉门托(加州首府)去洛杉矶,整个过程花费了15小时,也许中国人能教我们如何改进交通系统


                    13楼2010-12-16 09:05
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                      作者:换个马甲好难   回复日期:2010-12-05   11:10:16     
                           As China does this
                           Gov. Cris Cristy of NJ says America is too broke and stupid to dig a tunnel to NY
                           中国人做了这些,新泽西州长只会说美国人太蠢太穷了,没有能力挖个隧道去纽约


                      14楼2010-12-16 09:07
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                        Here in the west we have gradually developed into a "me" society (take care of # 1 first). China is a "we" society. They work as a team. The group takes precedent over the individual. This difference is most apparent in our school system. We need to reverse this soon. It is not good. We are weakening ourselves as a society.
                             在我们西方,我们在逐渐变成一种强调”我”的社会,而在中国这个社会强调的是”我们”.他们做的是团队工作.集体利益高于个人利益.这种差异在我们的学校里尤其明显.我们应该做出改变了,这很不好,我们组成的这个集体社会正变得越来越弱.
                        


                        16楼2010-12-16 09:10
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                          作者:换个马甲好难   回复日期:2010-12-05   11:35:49     
                               I commend China, for developing an efficent rail system. We have to be the most-stupid nation on earth. While China, builds fast trains, and Thailand builds NGV fuel stations, we talk about plug in cars and more gas tax. Listen up U.S. Congress, "your plug-in cars are dumb." Most people don't want to take time to charge the cell-phone. And please listen, "electricity isn't free and your $41,000.00 electric plug in hybrids will be a flop."
                               我表扬中国,因为他们开发出了这么高效的铁路系统。我们成了地球上最愚蠢的国度。当中国在建造高铁,泰国建造NGV燃料站时,我们在讨论电动轿车和更多的燃气税。听听国会怎么说“你们的电动轿车是哑的。”很多人不想花时间给他们的手机充电。还有请听“电不是免费的,你买的$41,000的电动混合轿车会成为一堆废铁


                          17楼2010-12-16 09:11
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                            作者:换个马甲好难   回复日期:2010-12-05   11:42:57     
                                 Is governor Christie gay? We know he like to spend a lot of taxpayers money on hotel and food.
                                
                                 州长 Christie 是不是个gay啊?我们都知道他喜欢在宾馆和吃喝上面花我们纳税人的钱。


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                              作者:换个马甲好难   回复日期:2010-12-05   11:47:15     
                                   Meanwhile our politicians suggest Americans to pay medical bills with a chicken and ride the 18th century built steamer to cross the Hudson River from New Jersey to Manhattan.
                                   与此同时我们的政客们正在建议美国人为一只鸡的医疗账单付款,驾驶一个18世纪的轮船去穿越哈得孙河,从New Jersey 到 Manhattan.
                              


                              19楼2010-12-16 09:13
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