战锤水吧 关注:48,039贴子:1,173,456

安格朗被带离的问题实际来自对设定集的吃书

只看楼主收藏回复

为啥这么说呢?因为在2013年设定集《黑暗千年的军阀-混沌的冠军们》里,卡恩的背景已经给出了安格朗当年被带离的缘由。HH系列的创作者们无一例外地选择了不尊重这个设定并对其吃书。
原文:When the War Hounds discovered Angron they rejoiced at being reunited with their Primarch, taking knee before him and offering up the leadership of the Legion. To their dismay, Angron, having little interest in the Crusade or the Imperium, turned his back upon them. In the end, the Legion forcibly teleported Angron onto their battle barge, sealing him in a cargo hold. Convinced that they could change the Primarch’s mind the captains and commanders of the War Hounds entered the hold to make their case. One by one Angron killed them all, until Khârn – as one of the few remaining officers of his rank – was the only one brave enough to face the homicidal giant. Into a chamber spattered with the blood of his brothers Khârn walked, calm and composed, never flinching even as the looming shadow of Angron rose up from where he sat upon a pile of power armoured corpses. Angron attacked Khârn as he had the others, smashing him to the ground and hammering him with furious blows. However, Khârn did not defend himself, remaining in control of himself even as his instincts screamed at him to fight. In the end it was this calm bravery that won him Angron’s respect, and allowed him to convince the Primarch that mastery over the Legion was not a collar to be worn around his neck, but a mantle of power to be worn on his mighty shoulders – a mantle that would grant him the freedom to stalk across the stars in an endless war of glorious bloodshed.


IP属地:北京来自Android客户端1楼2023-06-19 11:17回复
    简单来说,这个版本里发现安格朗的是战犬军团,全程没有提到帝皇或禁军的参与。战犬们发现安格朗以后下到世界表面向他屈膝并献上忠诚。然而安格朗对于帝国或大远征缺乏兴趣,并且背离战犬,这让他们失望。
    于是,军团的决策层们决定将安格朗传送到舰桥上,并尝试说服他—然后就是那个打爆战犬军官层的名场面了。


    IP属地:北京来自Android客户端2楼2023-06-19 11:19
    收起回复
      2025-07-17 20:57:55
      广告
      这个倒是可以和后面战犬为了讨好安格隆给自己打钉子 以及安格隆莫名其妙憎恨战犬以至于让他们打钉子接上
      可是目前大部分都搞成发现了原体帝皇亲自过去接 所以不方便整成完全是战犬和安格隆之间的事吧?


      IP属地:山西来自Android客户端4楼2023-06-19 16:54
      回复
        反正砍王这是圆不上了,好好一原体就这么被强迫上钉子了


        IP属地:湖北来自Android客户端5楼2023-06-19 17:52
        收起回复
          如果按照这个设定的,那安格隆造反是为了啥呢?


          IP属地:山东来自Android客户端6楼2023-06-19 18:06
          回复
            地黄强行传送安格隆再交给战犬的出处是是03年的index astartes3(可能有更早的出处但我没找到)
            之后有个小说after desh'ea(09年的),说的是安格隆虐啥战犬高层最后被卡恩说服,认的也是这一版设定
            13年的这个说法看起来是想给地黄找补,但没有被其他写手认可


            IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端9楼2023-06-19 18:29
            回复
              反正现在安格隆故事就是笔烂账,只能说作者对不能写天使的怨念太重了


              IP属地:四川来自Android客户端10楼2023-06-19 18:47
              收起回复
                所以说若是战犬发现自家原体的话,那帮奴隶主下场如何


                IP属地:福建来自Android客户端11楼2023-06-19 20:10
                收起回复
                  2025-07-17 20:51:55
                  广告
                  所以安格隆的设定被称为bug成精是有道理的


                  IP属地:广东来自Android客户端12楼2023-06-19 21:25
                  回复
                    cy


                    IP属地:河南来自Android客户端13楼2023-06-19 23:26
                    回复
                      安格隆的写手原本是要写圣吉列斯的,还在推特上表示自己构思了很久,结果被别人替代了,只能写安格隆。他把怒气都发泄在砍王身上,还把砍王垫给了天使,真的跟个小丑似的。现在安格隆就是一本烂账。


                      IP属地:四川来自Android客户端14楼2023-06-19 23:51
                      收起回复
                        安格隆现在看下来感觉就是bug成精了…一大堆吃书+bug搞得现在都对安格隆开摆了


                        IP属地:四川来自Android客户端16楼2023-06-20 01:40
                        回复