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1楼2010-02-22 00:39回复
    SQUEEEEE! ^.^
    sel, darling, of course you had a crush on david. i mean, it's david we're talking about. ;) and personally, i think crushes never really go away. once you like a guy, the attraction is always latent there, you just... get distracted by other people ;) so... in the beginning? heh. xD
    about the nick/sel bit... is that current nelena, or past nelena?
    by girls_are_weird
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    Sel,亲爱的,你当然会对David有好感啦. 我的意思是,我们在讲的可是David耶! 还有个人认为,好感是不会走的. 你一喜欢上一个男生,那种磁场就会一直存在,你只不过...是被其他人分散掉注意力而已.


    2楼2010-02-22 00:40
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      I still stick to the popular opinion on OU that Nelena is just publicity stunt, the timelines is too coicidentally matched with his album out and her tour started, and they goes to the paparazzi hotspot, it almost seems like begging for your pic to be taken and being talk on the gossip site on purpose to be more popular.
      Duh, it's more than obvious she has crush on David, there's lots of bts pics that showed she secretly staring at him.
      They seems got closer in season 2 and towards the end of season 2 somehow I felt their 1ncesty vibes are stronger than before, perhaps that's why the producer reduces their scenes together in season 3?
      Btw here's interesting comment in OU :
      "I'd rather not say just yet. He is over the age of 18, though, which is why it's a fairly well kept secret. Basically, Selena is very old fashioned, has very well grounded morals and knows that some people with the same morals and such would be a bit iffy about it, just because of the fact he is over 18. Her parents really love him, so as it goes with her family, he's very much accepted as is she with his family. She just tends to worry about what fans and other people would think."
      Is David the reason she can't wait turn 18?
      by wolfy102
      我仍然觉得NELENA只是宣传手法,因为所有的时间点实在太巧合了,刚好就是他个人专辑发行和她的巡回演唱开始之时,还有他们总是去一些狗仔很多的地方,看起来几乎像是巴不得被拍到照,好让自己的照片可以登上八卦网站被大家讨论.
      拜托,很明显她对David很有好感,很多幕后照片都拍到她悄悄盯著他看.
      他们第二季时好像亲密了很多,第二季后期我甚至觉得他们比之前更像乱(和谐)伦了,难道因为这样所以制作人才减少他们在第三季的对手戏吗?
      还有这里是一段在OU上很有趣的留言:
      "我会觉得现在不是时候.他已经满18了,所以这也是为什麼她喜欢他要保持秘密.简单来说,Selena是很传统的女孩,道德观念也是很重的,她也知道其他道德观很重的人如果知道这件事会怎麼想,就因为他是满18的人.她父母真的很喜欢他,所以他和她的家人在一起是很被接受的,就像她和他的家人一样.她只不过是担心她的fans和其他人会怎麼想而已."
      她那麼著急想要赶快满18是因为David吗?


      3楼2010-02-22 00:40
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        A+ comment! mte on everything. She's even releasing I Won't Apologize as a single, and he's rumored to be doing the same for Rose Garden. I mean, that's just suspect. No matter what people say about how niley fans are b0yc0tting his cds and nelena wouldn't help, it DOES. There has been more interest in Nick and Selena than there was in a long time, I see a new another post about them on OU and AD every time I check my friendslist. They are getting more and more visibility because of each other. People who might only know Selena will know Nick, and people who only know JB will know Selena. Nick trends every other day and nelena sometimes does too, and obviously Nick can't use Miley this time because of Liam, so if Selena's single or hiding a relationship (especially if the latter), and Nick and her are on good terms, both with a fairly recent album, a publicity stunt would be the most logical and smartest thing to do, as they're both genre savvy people.
        And, the timing...we know that Nick and Selena were friends before, why suddenly get back together? Around the time that Nick gets a twitter? Oh, and a band. And an a1bum. And concerts. There was a comment somewhere from a trusted fan that comments all the time that the paparazzi told them they were called for the Mr Chow's thing, and I find the We Are The World thing really weird, because she showed up for five seconds just to leave with Nick? If they had a date the girl that drove her to WATW could've driven her there, I assume, so mostly it sounds like she's there just to be seen, because being dropped off to a star studded event where the pap's definitely stalking out just to leave in five minutes with a rumored boyfriend doesn't smell fishy. And yeah, they could be dating for real with the publicity as a bonus, but I doubt they'd say the "I'm just being young, it's not serious" thing all the time, with Selena saying that she has/had a crush on Logan Lerman, Justin Bieber, and now David all the time. Even if you are dating someone casually, it's just kind of a weird thing to say, unless they're in a open relationship like apparently jemi which would be more out of Selena's character than dating a guy older than 18.
        Where's that OU comment from? That's definitely interesting. I'm pretty sure that Nelena is a publicity stunt but I never really seriously figured it was to cover for David. Well...we know that Selena's pretty involved in David's family and that David has met Brian and Mandy. I remember reading somewhere that Mandy doesn't approve of David though, but I don't remember where that is from...
        I feel like she keeps talking about turning 18. bb, my delena heart can't wait either. Also AAAAW at the actual post. It was insanely obvious but it's nice to be canon.
        by prinklerjelly


        4楼2010-02-22 00:42
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          楼上的留言真的是一级棒! 我的想法和你完全一模一样! 她甚至还用"I Won't Apologize"来当第三支单曲,而他也有传会发"Rose Garden"当单曲. 我意思是,也太可疑了. 不管NILEY粉说什麼会杯葛他的CD,NELENA不会帮上忙,其实一定是有帮助的. 现在大众对Nick和Selena的兴趣比以前更大了,每次我更新我的friendlist就看到OceanUp和AnythingDisney有一篇关於NELENA的新闻. 他们因为彼此越来越为人熟悉,只知道Selena的粉丝会认识Nick这个人,只知道JB的粉丝也会认识Selena这个人. 在twitter的热门话题榜上几乎每天都有Nick,有时甚至有Nelena呢,再说这次因为Liam的存在Nick也不能再和Miley炒新闻了,所以现在Selena又有新专辑(或者要搞地下情),Nick和她关系又不错,两人又都有新专辑,那麼大家合作当作宣传其实是最聪明最合理的事,毕竟他们两个在事业方面都是很有企图心的.
          还有,时间点方面...我们都知道Nick和Selena之前好过...可是为什麼突然又复合了呢? 就在Nick刚好申请了他的个人Twitter帐号之时? 还有他的个人专辑,还有他的Band, 还有演唱会. 还有那个We are the world录音的事情也非常奇怪,她就出现那麼五秒钟就为了和Nick一起离开? 如果他们之后有约会的话,开车载她去We are the world那边的那个女生可以直接载她去约会地点啊,所以我想她只是特地在那边出现被狗仔拍而已,因为We are the world是一个众星云集的机会,狗仔一定不会放过这一个大好机会的. 而且,对啊,一边宣传还可以一边拍拖听起来还不错,一石二鸟,不过为什麼他们老是把"我还很年轻,玩玩嘛"这种话挂在嘴边呢? 而Selena现在甚至还经常说她对Logan Lerman,Justin Bieber,David有好感? 就算你只是随便和一个人约会,说这种话也蛮怪的吧,除非是像JEMI那样已经公开了,不过对Selena来说和一个满18的男人交往是近乎不可能的事.
          那个OU留言是哪里写的? 真的很有趣耶! 我早就肯定Nelena只是为了宣传,不过我倒是没想到是为了保密David. 我们都知道Selena和他的家人很熟,也知道David已经和Brian和Mandy(Sel的妈妈和继父)见过面了. 不过我记得好像有看过说Mandy不太喜欢David的,忘了在哪边看到了.
          我感觉她最近老提著快要满18的事. 我喜欢Delena的心都快要跳出来了! 


          5楼2010-02-22 00:42
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            THIS. i love you. have i ever mentioned i love you? because i do, i love you. *glomps comment*
            personally, i don't care if nick & selena are dating or if it's a publicity stunt, or a cover-up, or whatnot. all i know, and i'm absolutely certain of this: once selena turns 18, the line will start to blur. and all that delicious UST between her and david is going to do its thing. ;D
            I remember reading somewhere that Mandy doesn't approve of David though, but I don't remember where that is from...
            really? i wouldn't have thought so, both sel's parents seemed pretty cozy with david in PR...
            in other news: she said she has a crush on logan lerman? omfg. you might have just given me a new ship right there. (obviously, because i adore logan lerman and shipping him with selena can give me a chance to live vicariously through her and that way i don't have to feel like a cradle robber, lol).
            by girls_are_weird
            我自己是完全不在乎Nelena是真的在一起,或是宣传手法,或是掩饰什麼,什麼都好. 我只知道,等到Selena满18岁,一切都会开始改变. 然后她和David之间的暧昧便会开始浮上台面.
            "不过我记得好像有看过说Mandy不太喜欢David的,忘了在哪边看到了."
            是吗? 我倒不觉得耶,Sel的父母在Puerto Rico的时候好像都和David处得不错.
            另一方面:Sel有说过她对Logan Lerman有好感吗?? 我的天哪,你让我开始萌这一对了!


            6楼2010-02-22 00:42
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              Ahaha, nice to meet you too! -glomps back- ;)
              I loved the way you put that! Yes, it will happen. If it hasn't already. This year is exciting because all the underage disney kids turn 18, and I mean, if Disney doesn't order a season 4 of wowp, technically they're not playing siblings anymore and will probably erase the rest of the line, ahaha.
              Yeah, so I'm thinking it was made up by some anti-David fan, because the fam seemed pretty close with him. and they haven't objected to her hanging out with him, or going to scary haunted houses together like some two teens on a first date or anything. But the one thing that makes me think that if that comment on OU (oceanup by the way, is a gossip website like anythingdisney, but unlike on anythingdisney most of the members are 12 and on crack) is not about David is that the same commenter said they've been dating for a year. David was dating Mariah Buzolin awhile back, definitely within the year, but I can't think of any other older guys Selena could possibly be dating, besides someone completely new and not famous, but I don't think that's even possible at the moment.
              Well, she said in a seacrest interview that she thinks that he's going to be a huge star and positively gushes over him, and on the Bonnie Hunt show Bonnie tried to convince Logan to find her and ask her out, so I think that's actually kind of possible. I would ship it, too! They're both adorable so together they'd be the cutest thing ever. *-*
              by prinklerjelly
              我喜欢你这样讲! 没错,一定会发生的. 这一年会很刺激因为DISNEY目前未成年的孩子们将会在今年全部满18岁,还有,如果DISNEY不打算开拍WOWP第四季的话,那麼他们的可能性更是大了.
              我觉得那个应该是一些不喜欢David的粉丝胡扯的,因为很明显的她家人和他很熟啊. 而且他们也没有阻止Sel和他来往,也没有不准他们两个单独去鬼屋(根本就是两个人第一次约会的感觉).不过有一点让我怀疑OU那个留言是不是真的关於David,因为那个人也有说他们有交往过一年,David之前有和Mariah Buzolin交往过一阵子,不过一定没有一年,我也想不到Sel和其他比她年纪大的男生交往,除非是一个新人或者圈外人,不过看来是没有可能的.
              她在Ryan Seacrest的访问里说她觉得Logan会成为大明星,还一直猛赞他,然后Logan上Bonnie Hunt Show时Bonnie有试著说服Logan去找她然后和她约会,所以我想某程度上是有点可能吧. 我也很萌,他们两个都很可爱,如果在一起的话一定会是最可爱的情侣.


              7楼2010-02-22 00:43
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                I remember reading somewhere that Mandy doesn't approve of David though, but I don't remember where that is from...
                I think you're picking that up from that one time Perez said something to Selena on twitter about going to the pool with David and Selena said "No, my momma wouldn't like that haha"
                I think her parents really like him, but come on, her mom is super-involved in her life and I don't see Mandy letting her date someone like David during that time (especially after all he did while in PR, haha). Her mom is probably just against her dating an older guy that clearly does not worry about wearing a purity ring, if you know what I mean.
                I think that was just during their time in PR though. I think David and Selena are both close with each others families. Plus, I found this pic:
                (pic,downs there)
                Not sure where it's from but I think it's safe to say that Mandy likes David. And she probably wouldn't mind if they dated in the future, but just not now for obvious reasons.
                by liquidlights
                "不过我记得好像有看过说Mandy不太喜欢David的,忘了在哪边看到了."
                我猜你应该是因为看了twitter上有一次Perez(Hilton)对Sel说了些什麼关於Sel和David一起去游泳池的事,然后Sel说"No, my momma wouldn't like that haha"
                我想她父母蛮喜欢他的,不过,你看她妈在Sel的生活圈里那麼的活跃(翻的是有点怪),而且我不觉得Mandy会让Selena和像David这样的人约会(尤其经过Puerto Rico之后). 她妈妈应该只是反对她和年纪比她大的男生交往,一些很明显不把贞洁戒当回事儿的男生(应该知道是什麼意思吧).
                我想只是在Puerto Rico那时候吧. 我觉得David和Selena和彼此的家人都交情不错. 还有,我找到这张照片:

                不是很清楚这张照片是什麼时候拍的,不过说Mandy喜欢David应该可以算保守说法了. 她应该不会介意Selena和David将来在一起,只是现在因为明显原因所以还不可以.


                8楼2010-02-22 00:44
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                  Logan is cute but I think Selena looks best with David, they’re just match.
                  Selena is much more popular now after the PR with Nick, so I guess that’s just part of her job to promote her music. It’s kinda strange and actually annoying that no news about Delena at all after this PR thing is started, are their publicist told them to tone down Delena so they could sell Nelena in more believable way because let’s face it Delena is hotter and much more compatible? lol. There’s only one news on OU that fans went to WWOP taping, she and her friends was walked out by David and Selena, apparently Selena doesn’t let David surrounded with fan girls alone, lmao.
                  Yeah turning 18 but still in WWOP that means no confession will be made anytime soon. I kinda wish WWOP to be end soon as their storyline started went downhill and they kept on adding bad love interests, but I like Delena to hang out together during the filming, such a dilemma.
                  Is I Won’t Apologize really about Nick? Do you guys remember about the Selena’s myspace being hacked debacle? The one that allegedly Selena wrote the blog about she lost her friend coz he chose his gf over her, and people suspecting it’s the triangle between Selena, David and Lucy, but she quickly backtracking that her myspace was hacked and she wasn’t wrote the blog, but people don’t buy it coz honestly what kind of lame hacker wrote the blog with small details, real hacker would posted something more outrageous like her versus Miley that would create more buzz.
                  I remember there’s someone mentioned on forum that David likes I Won’t Apologize in live chat or something when her album was first come out, why would he like the song she wrote for someone else? And in the recent concert, she said before singing, she said everything about the song is in the past.
                  The quote from the blog :
                  (quoted blog downs there)
                  The lyrics that kinda connected :
                  You had me to get her – Selena and Lucy resemblance is uncanny, there’s rumor there’s something happened in Puerto Rico, but then David got back with Lucy again after they went back to LA.
                  Cause through the pain now I'm stronger now than before - explaining the pain I no longer feel. Stronger = stand up for myself more
                  Anyway that’s just pure speculation, I dunno if it’s better or worse if she had history up and down relationship with David. Actually I just wish their relationship as sweet as Naturally and I Promise You lyrics.
                  by wolfy102


                  9楼2010-02-22 00:44
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                    David said he liked that song because it's the only one on the album that she wrote herself. I really don't think it's about him.
                    yeah, that's what i first thought when david said that, as well. and i thought it was really adorable. =3
                    personally, i don't even think she's with nick right now, not really. admittedly i haven't been keeping up to date with the gossip, but even nick himself seems like he's more focused on other stuff than dating right now. and she doesn't strike me as the kind of girl who goes back to an ex-boyfriend. she does strike me as the type that sticks to her friends, though-- and if those outings with her friends happen to attract publicity, well, who knows. but i don't think they're, like, together together. *shrugs*
                    but i do agree that she's not dating david in secret... and personally, i wouldn't want her to. not until she's well after 18 at least, and preferably away from disney. i don't want people giving them any kind of slack about him being older or the "sibling" thing. when they do get together, it will not be squicky in any way. *nods*
                    by girls_are_weird
                    David说他喜欢那首歌的原因是因为那首歌是她在写自己的故事. 我真的不觉得那首歌讲的是他.
                    David这样讲的时候我第一样想到的事情也是这个. 然后我觉得很可爱:)
                    个人感觉,她目前也没有和Nick在一起,不是真正的在一起. 老实说我不是会follow八卦的人,而且Nick看起来也是比较著重工作多於恋爱. 还有她给我的感觉不像是那种会吃回头草的女生. 她比较像是那种会粘著好朋友的女生. 如果和朋友外出是为了被狗仔拍照的话,那,谁知道呢? 反正我不觉得他们是真的在一起的在一起.
                    不过我同意她没有和David搞地下情...而其实我也不太想他们这样做. 至少要等到她满18岁,而且要已经离开Disney. 我不想要别人因为他年纪比较大或者他们曾经演过兄妹而对他们的感情指指点点. 当他们在一起,一切都要顺顺利利的.


                    12楼2010-02-22 00:45
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                      13楼2010-02-22 00:45
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                        顶个!这个分析好过瘾。


                        14楼2010-02-22 01:23
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                          Delena ~我滴最爱


                          15楼2010-02-22 01:23
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                            delena 4 ever


                            16楼2010-02-22 18:39
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                              外饭真牛,看他们的分析狂窝心的,感觉以前看分析robsten的文了


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