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想问一下:东什约克河谷地区(East Shyok Valle

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想问一下:东什约克河谷地区(East Shyok Valley)明明位于和田县阿克赛钦(Aksai Chin,Hetian County)的西部,为何阿三却越过喀喇昆仑山(Karakoram)高大的雪峰,将东什约克河谷地区归于印控拉达克(Ladakh)的东部?从地理单元的完整性来看,没有人质疑吗?






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我要表达的意思是:包括东什约克河谷在内的完整的阿克赛钦不容分割,阿克赛钦归于和田县!建议将印控区称为东什约克河谷地区,或西阿克赛钦地区。


2025-07-19 01:47:32
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看着确实很恶心


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由于阿克赛钦在我方地图上并未单独标注,建议以后对喀喇昆仑山雪峰线以东地区统一称呼为和田县南部地区,比如:和田县南部的东什约克河谷地区,和田县南部的加勒万河口,和田县南部的达普桑盆地,和田县南部的西塞拉山口,和田县南部的基阿姆温泉等等…


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楼主提了一个很好问题。我猜的原因是:1.早期地理测绘技术不行,不能窥其全貌。
2.1962年后,虽然占了阿克塞钦,但老一代的领导人毕竟还是受传统教育较多,有王朝国家的疆域意识而无现代主权国家的边界意识。3.后勤跟不上,不得不如此。


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阿三认为,阿克赛钦是其一部分。所以,东什约克河谷地区 再难也要守住,以图 阿克赛钦。
德普桑平地 及什约克河谷,50年代PLA进入过, 无阿三,后 国家认为,在我 声索线(所谓的传统习惯线)之外,本着:是我的,一寸不丢;不是我的,一寸也不要 的原则,主动退出。之后,阿三才逐步进入


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其实62年那一战的确是要推到喀喇昆仑山脉一线,凤凰网有个视频离参加过战斗的衣卫将军提到过,虽然西线收复了不少边界也向前推进了战后也守住了,可惜的是没有更进一步的推到喀喇昆仑山脉一线


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最终可能还是需要一场小规模的冲突,否则以兔子的性格,不可能主动积极进取。


2025-07-19 01:41:32
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除了海拔约5300m的萨瑟尔山口是需要翻越喀喇昆仑山脉来连接东什约克河谷和努布拉河谷以外,在喀喇昆仑山脉南段末端的什约克镇的那个打拐弯处进入什约克河谷,沿河而上,从自然条件上讲,其实的确比我们当年翻好几座达坂过去要容易


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解放前,英印已侵入到河谷地区了,并已实控了。中方因供给、政治等原因虽62年打了一下,但都没收回这块,以后印不主动找事,很难回。


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2. Around the 2nd centuryA.D., Tibetans began to influence and administer Ali and Ladakh(West Ali) regions. Until 1846, Ladakh was the traditional area of Tibet.
3. In 1652, Tibet agreed to attach itself to the Qing Dynasty. After that, the central government set up ministers in Tibet to manage Tibet, and Ladakh became a dependency of the Qing Dynasty.
4. Before 1846, the British government in India had not yet crossed the Himalayas. The local states in Kashmir are still vassal to the Qing Dynasty, and the Tibetan local government of Qing Dynasty still controlled Ladakh.
5. Before 1865, British India did not know the place of Aksai Chin. In order to compete with Russia for Central Asia, the British Indian government sent its staff member Johnson to explore the Southern Xinjiang along the East Shyok River from this place, And began to draw maps,put Aksai Chin on the map of India, but never sent troops to garrison.
6. Before 1950, the biggest influence of India in Ladakh still stopped at the western foot of the Karakorum Mountains.
7. In 1951, the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) went from Southern Xinjiang to West Tibet Ali via Aksai Chin, and began to arrange defense in Aksai Chin.
8. In 1956, the Indian Army crossed over the Karakoram along the Shyok River to the east and sent troops to patrol China's Aksai Chin for the first time, but was arrested and deported by the PLA garrison.
9. In 1958, because India was dissatisfied with the Xinjiang-Tibet highway crossing Aksai Chin, the Indian army invaded again and began to set up post, which was a crisscross situation with thePLA post.
10. In 1962, after the defeat of India, the Indian army was expelled and retreated to the west, but still invasion and occupation the East Shyok Valley in the West Aksai Chin, Hetian County until now.
11. The complete Aksai Chin, including the East Shyok Valley, cannot be separated. China and India should be bounded by the ridge line of Karakoram snow peak and separated by the


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11. The complete Aksai Chin, including the East Shyok Valley, cannot be separated. CHN and IND should be bounded by the ridge line of Karakoram snow peak and separated by the natural barrier. Only in this way can the two sides be peaceful forever and put an end to the potential security risks in thefuture. India must withdraw from the East Shyok River.The more China talks about peace, the more India feels that China is weak and afraid of war. There is no difference between Indian thinking and Western Thinking: fear of power, never care about friendship and kindness.China must not use the way of Confucius and Mencius to guide border affairs.


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所以阿三叫蚕食:从山谷、河谷、实控线全线推进,你看那些骑线和临河哨所就看出来,管你什么地理单元。我国历来都是控制边疆都是定期巡逻,你一走下次来的时候人家建立哨所了不让通过,只有越来越靠后。


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阿三的前进政策,能多占一点是一点,地理的合理性这东西不重要,谁占了算谁的,这就是阿三的逻辑。


2025-07-19 01:35:32
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原来约翰逊线划走的


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