
如果第二章不救Violet,第三章找到她时发现她没有像Louis那样被割舌头,但是她会非常的不信任Clem,同时还想阻拦Clem,然后被Clem打倒。
我个人的观点是毕竟她被逮过去之后,一直和自己被洗过脑的前女友放在一起啊。。肯定洗脑X2咯。。。。我真的觉得说Violet只是耍性子挺过分的。当然惨是Louis舌头惨。但是玩家上帝视角不能算数啊,那样真的没意思。
底下是编剧对于这剧情的回应。。。。随便翻译一下
我已经看到不少写得很好能够解释这一切的帖子了,但是最重要的是,你要从Violet的角度来看事情。
当你在第一章遇见她时,她非常的封闭自我,也很痛苦。她从Clem身上看到了一些东西,她向Clem敞开了心怀。这对Vi来说是很大的风险,自从Minnie离去后她很久没有真正和人亲近了。
马隆死了进入第二章时,Vi一狠心“去***”然后成为了领头的,数周都十分紧张的维持着孩子们的生存(因为内心深处她还是关心他们的)。要不是Clem在,她都不会有力量去试图反抗掠夺者们。
即使她没和Clem在一起、或者都没去房顶朋友线,她也很信任她。Clem是值得信任的人,她愿意承担这种风险(如果你去房顶看星星了,你会发现Vi说她被很多关心的人抛下了,只有Clementine重新回来了)
然后她被Clementine抛弃了。Clementine拯救了路易斯而不是她。她被狠砸脑袋,扔进笼子,一路穿越黑暗的树林,被拖回船上,被扔进了另一个笼子里,被威胁,被恐吓。她只是一个十几岁的青少年。
然后Minnie。这个她喜欢过的人,活生生出现在她面前,在她最脆弱的时候,告诉她只要你不反抗,一切都会好的。人在极端情况下会抓住任何救命稻草来以来。你沮丧时有没有看过你前任的脸书?或者觉得只要和ta重归于好,一切问题都会解决?她成为了领袖,信任了Clementine,然后被狠狠地打脸了。羞耻,遗憾,恐惧,疲惫,还有想逃避这一切的欲望混合在一起,让Vi愿意和他们合作。
Vi在几年间都没有像相信Clementine这样去相信过别人,随后发生的事情证明这个决定果然是个错误。于是Minnie在树林里对Clementine的那番讲话此时拿来对她灌输,她相信了。她攻击Clem是因为,她绝望的相信这样能让所有人都避免受伤。她正处于和Minnie遭受的同样的洗脑的初级阶段。(就像救了Violet线时,Minnie大喊道“乖乖听话,我们就都能活!如果你不这样做,人们会死!你爱着的人,会死!”)
我觉得她的反应只是作为人类的反应。而我很感激那些能够理解这件事的玩家们。
原文
I’ve actually seen some very thoughtful write ups that explain this well, but the gist here is, you need to imagine all this from Violet’s perspective.
When you meet Violet in 401 she’s very closed off and bitter. She opens up to Clementine since she sees something in her, which for Violet no doubt felt like a big risk. She hasn’t been truly close to anyone since Minnie, and probably spends more time thinking about leaving than she does being close with the other kids.
When Marlon dies and 402 happens, Violet through sheer force of “**** it I’ll do it” becomes a leader and stresses the **** out for weeks trying to keep everyone alive (because deep down she cares about them all) and if Clementine wasn’t around, she never would have had the strength to even try to fight back against the raiders.
Even if she doesn’t romance/friend date Clementine, she puts a lot of faith in her, faith she clearly didn’t have in Marlon. She risks it all on Clementine being someone worth believing in. (if you do go to the roof, you can see Violet has issues about being left behind by many people she’d cared for, they all leave, but Clementine came back)
Then she SEES Clementine save Louis instead of her. She’s cracked across the head and throw into a cage and taken on what must have been a terrifying ride through the dark woods. She’s brought aboard the ship like an animal, thrown in a different cage, threatened, scared. This is a teenage girl, recall.
And then MINNIE. Alive, and in her now vulnerable state, a face she loved telling her it will all be okay as long as NO ONE fights back. In extreme situations people cling to whatever comfort they know. Who hasn’t looked at your ex’s facebook page when you felt down? Or felt how easy it would be to fall back into their arms and forget all your problems? She became leader, trusted Clementine, and it all blew up in her face. A horrible mixture of shame, regret, fear, exhaustion, and a desire to just make it all go away lead Violet to cooperate.
Violet extended herself farther than she has in years to believe in Clementine, and in her experience it was all a huge mistake. She got that same speech Minnie gives Clementine in the woods, and in her compromised state, she believed it. Her attacking Clem is a desperate desire to stop anyone else from getting hurt. She’s at the beginning stages of the total brainwash we see Minnie suffering from. (especially in the captured Louis side when Minnie is screaming “we just lay down, fall in line, and we get to live! And if you don’t, people die! The people you LOVE, die!”)
I think her reaction is human, and I appreciate the players I see that understand that.
我个人的观点是毕竟她被逮过去之后,一直和自己被洗过脑的前女友放在一起啊。。肯定洗脑X2咯。。。。我真的觉得说Violet只是耍性子挺过分的。当然惨是Louis舌头惨。但是玩家上帝视角不能算数啊,那样真的没意思。
底下是编剧对于这剧情的回应。。。。随便翻译一下
我已经看到不少写得很好能够解释这一切的帖子了,但是最重要的是,你要从Violet的角度来看事情。
当你在第一章遇见她时,她非常的封闭自我,也很痛苦。她从Clem身上看到了一些东西,她向Clem敞开了心怀。这对Vi来说是很大的风险,自从Minnie离去后她很久没有真正和人亲近了。
马隆死了进入第二章时,Vi一狠心“去***”然后成为了领头的,数周都十分紧张的维持着孩子们的生存(因为内心深处她还是关心他们的)。要不是Clem在,她都不会有力量去试图反抗掠夺者们。
即使她没和Clem在一起、或者都没去房顶朋友线,她也很信任她。Clem是值得信任的人,她愿意承担这种风险(如果你去房顶看星星了,你会发现Vi说她被很多关心的人抛下了,只有Clementine重新回来了)
然后她被Clementine抛弃了。Clementine拯救了路易斯而不是她。她被狠砸脑袋,扔进笼子,一路穿越黑暗的树林,被拖回船上,被扔进了另一个笼子里,被威胁,被恐吓。她只是一个十几岁的青少年。
然后Minnie。这个她喜欢过的人,活生生出现在她面前,在她最脆弱的时候,告诉她只要你不反抗,一切都会好的。人在极端情况下会抓住任何救命稻草来以来。你沮丧时有没有看过你前任的脸书?或者觉得只要和ta重归于好,一切问题都会解决?她成为了领袖,信任了Clementine,然后被狠狠地打脸了。羞耻,遗憾,恐惧,疲惫,还有想逃避这一切的欲望混合在一起,让Vi愿意和他们合作。
Vi在几年间都没有像相信Clementine这样去相信过别人,随后发生的事情证明这个决定果然是个错误。于是Minnie在树林里对Clementine的那番讲话此时拿来对她灌输,她相信了。她攻击Clem是因为,她绝望的相信这样能让所有人都避免受伤。她正处于和Minnie遭受的同样的洗脑的初级阶段。(就像救了Violet线时,Minnie大喊道“乖乖听话,我们就都能活!如果你不这样做,人们会死!你爱着的人,会死!”)
我觉得她的反应只是作为人类的反应。而我很感激那些能够理解这件事的玩家们。
原文
I’ve actually seen some very thoughtful write ups that explain this well, but the gist here is, you need to imagine all this from Violet’s perspective.
When you meet Violet in 401 she’s very closed off and bitter. She opens up to Clementine since she sees something in her, which for Violet no doubt felt like a big risk. She hasn’t been truly close to anyone since Minnie, and probably spends more time thinking about leaving than she does being close with the other kids.
When Marlon dies and 402 happens, Violet through sheer force of “**** it I’ll do it” becomes a leader and stresses the **** out for weeks trying to keep everyone alive (because deep down she cares about them all) and if Clementine wasn’t around, she never would have had the strength to even try to fight back against the raiders.
Even if she doesn’t romance/friend date Clementine, she puts a lot of faith in her, faith she clearly didn’t have in Marlon. She risks it all on Clementine being someone worth believing in. (if you do go to the roof, you can see Violet has issues about being left behind by many people she’d cared for, they all leave, but Clementine came back)
Then she SEES Clementine save Louis instead of her. She’s cracked across the head and throw into a cage and taken on what must have been a terrifying ride through the dark woods. She’s brought aboard the ship like an animal, thrown in a different cage, threatened, scared. This is a teenage girl, recall.
And then MINNIE. Alive, and in her now vulnerable state, a face she loved telling her it will all be okay as long as NO ONE fights back. In extreme situations people cling to whatever comfort they know. Who hasn’t looked at your ex’s facebook page when you felt down? Or felt how easy it would be to fall back into their arms and forget all your problems? She became leader, trusted Clementine, and it all blew up in her face. A horrible mixture of shame, regret, fear, exhaustion, and a desire to just make it all go away lead Violet to cooperate.
Violet extended herself farther than she has in years to believe in Clementine, and in her experience it was all a huge mistake. She got that same speech Minnie gives Clementine in the woods, and in her compromised state, she believed it. Her attacking Clem is a desperate desire to stop anyone else from getting hurt. She’s at the beginning stages of the total brainwash we see Minnie suffering from. (especially in the captured Louis side when Minnie is screaming “we just lay down, fall in line, and we get to live! And if you don’t, people die! The people you LOVE, die!”)
I think her reaction is human, and I appreciate the players I see that understand that.
