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IP属地:北京1楼2018-09-24 15:33回复
    最后一个帖子,我不信还能被锁
    距离石头门0完结还有3天


    IP属地:北京2楼2018-09-24 15:34
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      2025-06-23 18:55:39
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      原来第二个帖子被锁了啊


      来自Android客户端3楼2018-09-24 15:40
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        顶顶


        IP属地:重庆来自Android客户端4楼2018-09-24 15:43
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          更吧


          来自Android客户端5楼2018-09-24 15:50
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            I often forget the difference between Amadeus and the real Kurisu. They're almost like the same entity with their behavior in this episode.
            我经常忘记Amadeus和助手之间的区别。在这一集里她们的本质和行动基本上是一样的
            It was the weeks of interacting with Okabe that gave us the Amadeus we know as well as the Kurisu we know, it was only a matter of time until they matched again... but unfortunately we are now out of time...
            她和冈部互动交流的那几周让我们觉得自己眼里的 Amadeus和自己眼里的助手的身影重合了,他们修成正果只是时间问题了....但是,不幸的是,我们现在没有时间了
            maybe go back to real Kurisu
            也许会回到助手本体那个世界线
            Given the real thing, and an indistingui****le fake, which is worth more
            The fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing.
            仔细想一下,真品,和几乎无法辨别出来的赝品,谁更有价值呢
            赝品实际上有着更大的价值。在它的不懈努力下,它变得如此像真品。这种努力让它比真品更加真实
            A copy of best girl is still best girl.
            最佳女主的拷贝仍然是最佳女主


            IP属地:北京6楼2018-09-24 15:54
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              I would say it depends on the frame of reference. You could say the same about the original s;g okabe, he could just have his memories overwritten when the time aligns with the sent DRINE. It all depends on who we label as the 'Original Okabe'. Seeing as this timeline appears to be the 'original okabe' sending a message back to his former self, he may very well rewrite the okabe of S;G
              Similar to all the DMails that were sent in S;G. He could literally just send the video to his past, then reading steiner kicks in and we awakens to the Steins;Gate Worldline!
              我觉得是取决于你观察的视角(参考系)吧。对本篇的冈部而言也是一样,当发送邮件,世界线变动时,他的记忆也会复写。取决于我们把哪个冈部当做“最开始的冈部”。如果世界线是表现为“最开始的冈部”向过去的自己发送邮件,(石头门0中的)他很可能会覆盖SG线冈部的记忆。
              这和石头门第一部里所有的Dmail一样,石头门0最后的冈部就是把邮件发给了过去的自己,然后RS发动了,我们就抵达SG线了!
              If I remember right from Steins;Gate, Reading Steiner didn't trigger at the time the D-mail was received, instead at corresponding the time that it was sent in the previous world line. With the very first Dmail, I believe Okabe had his memories a week after the Dmail was received, which was when it had been sent in the first world line. So, Okabe may recover his memories of Steins;Gate 0 later, at the time when he had sent the D-mail.
              如果我记得没错的话,石头门第一部里,收到那封视频邮件的冈部并没有发动RS,而那个冈部的记忆仍然还是先前原世界线的冈部的记忆。在最开始的那封Dmail,我相信冈部在收到后的那一周仍然保留记忆,而这封是发送到第一个世界线的。所以,冈部可能在0的剧情之后恢复了记忆,在发送Dmail的时候他就会恢复记忆
              感觉老外门学家战斗力不够高(也有可能是我英语水平差理解出现了偏差)
              保留记忆的冈部一定是主动发送Dmail,主动时间跳跃的那个冈部。
              所以如果0的冈部主动发了那封视频中二Dmail,他就只能带着0中所经历的一切抵达SG线了,包括那3000次的跳跃。
              这个结果和第一部矛盾了(同时有两个不同记忆的冈部抵达了同一世界线),而且也不算好结果(虽然也抵达SG线了)
              但是又有一个问题,按石头门第一部的剧情,谁还会记得AI助手呢......


              IP属地:北京8楼2018-09-24 16:44
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                How many more times does Okabe have to "delete" Kurisu whether it be real or A.I.?
                It's just painful to watch, crazy to imagine what our favorite lab coat model feels in that moment.
                I like how the episode was kind of a prallel to the originals episode 22, with "Christina" playing in the background and a similar decision to be made. Even Amadeus Kurisus choice of words seemed to mirror the originals, e.g. about remembering her
                You can see the consistency for Kurisus personality's writing with her desire to make Okabe feel less horrible about himself for 'deleting' her. Whether it be saying "Im only a program" or in S;G 0 episode 8, I believe, saying "This is only a dream".
                There's just no room for debate, Assistant is and will be best girl. fite me.
                冈部究竟还要“删除”ai版或者是现实世界的助手几次呢?
                我们最喜爱,最适合穿实验服的那个人,难以想象她当时的感受,看到这段,心如刀割
                我喜欢这集,这集和第一部的22集有一种对映的感觉,幕后的“克里斯蒂娜”,又一次做出了差不多的选择。甚至 Amadeus助手说的话都和本篇里助手的话的倒影,例如“记住她”
                你可以发现,助手希望冈部能够对‘删掉’自己这件事少一些愧疚。无论是这集的“我只是一个程序”,还是在第8集里说“这个世界线只是梦而已”
                助手永远是我心中的第一,无可辩驳
                晚上继续


                IP属地:北京10楼2018-09-24 17:20
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                  mk,有意思


                  IP属地:江西来自Android客户端11楼2018-09-24 17:39
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                    老外们意识到了重点


                    IP属地:重庆来自Android客户端13楼2018-09-24 18:58
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                      开始晚上的更新,找找有没有讨论剧情的评论


                      IP属地:北京14楼2018-09-24 20:40
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                        长评,看看多久能翻译完
                        Wow, it's like tradition in Steins;Gate to reset all the events from the start of the story that involve time travel and conspiracies back to normal life but without all the good experiences and memories that were intertwined with the crazy dangerous stuff.
                        哇,(这居然是一句话)这似乎是石头门系列的惯例:从故事的开头开始,一系列的有关时间旅行,惊天阴谋的事件最后都会被重置,回归平静的日常。回归没有这些既危险又让人感叹的经历和记忆的,一如既往的日常。(恩,基本上和原文对不上的翻译,中文一句话真的没办法弄这么多定语状语啊,想学英语的可以研究一下这个句子的结构)
                        In OG S;G, that was all the experiments the Future Lab did as well as all the new Lab Mems that joined. All of that got erased in order to reach the Steins Gate timeline.
                        在第一部中,未来道具研究所每次实验时都会拐进一名新的labmen。最后,为了抵达命运石之门线,所有的这一切都被抹去了。
                        In S;G 0, all the events up till now started with Okabe meeting Maho and Leskinen at the Amadeus presentation (Side Note: And now we know the real reason Leskinen was so interested in Lintalho). If Amadeus gets erased, then that presentation never happens and all subsequent events probably get altered to a pretty large degree. So most likely Okabe never meets our favorite Loli Girl, at least not in the same time and place as before. It'll be interesting to see the fallout from this, especially with divergence over 1%.
                        在SG0的故事里,一切事件都起源与此——冈部和真帆,莱斯基宁在Amadeus发布会上的相遇相识(注:现在我们终于明白那个时候的莱斯基宁为何对伦太郎如此关照了)。如果Amadeus的诞生这一事实被抹去,那么举办发布会这件事也会消失,接下来的一系列事件也会发生剧烈的变动。很有可能,冈部从未遇到过我们最爱的萝莉少女,至少他们不会再像之前那样,在那场发布会上相遇了。这些连带的后果也很有意思,特别如果世界线变动率因此越过1%的界限的结果。
                        This was actually one of the more fun parts of the OG S;G. Finding out how things changed (and how they didn't) after sending a D-Mail back to the past was always exciting. It's kinda fitting that's how the story of S;G 0 closes out. Of course, we still have one final D-Mail (or D-LINE, I should say) to send back.
                        而这也是第一部里最让人好奇的事情。在发送Dmail到过去之后,看看这些事情将会如何变化(或者不变)总是让人有些激动。石头门0的故事在这里收尾还是比较合适的。当然,我们还有那封最后的D-Mail(或者说D-LINE)要发送出去。
                        1 more episode until the gate to Steins Gate opens. El. Psy. Kongroo.
                        还有一集,命运石之门就要开启了。 El. Psy. Kongroo
                        最后花了大约25分钟翻译完


                        IP属地:北京15楼2018-09-24 21:16
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                          又发现一个超长评论我今天大概是要猝死了
                          好像是动画党对剧情的分析和疑问


                          IP属地:北京16楼2018-09-24 21:19
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                            其实这些问题后面有个评论解答了,不过估计涉及剧透,我就没有翻译,各位也请不要剧透
                            只是感觉一集很难收尾啊,感觉0线胸针的死应该是板上钉钉了,否则保留记忆并抵达SG线的就是他了
                            今天就到这里,长评翻译的心累


                            IP属地:北京20楼2018-09-24 22:06
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                              2025-06-23 18:43:39
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