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【渣翻】【架空历史】FCM F1进化史【下篇】

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IP属地:中国香港1楼2018-09-17 16:39回复
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    From this point on, the text deals with alternate history, a speculation of how this vehicle would have performed.
    从这里开始我们讨论的是另外一条世界线,将讲述这辆坦克如果顺利生产会有怎样的表现。
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    As some of you might know, the company FCM was primarily a shipbuilding company. And, as we also know, marine scales are a bit different than the land ones – and it were these scales that the company used in the F1 building and development, there were even some sort of “dry docks” used in their construction. In this case, the company was also risking a debacle, when agreeing to build 12 vehicles instead of the first prototype (we all know how well this worked for Porsche Tigers). Apparently, the reason for this decision was the dread of another imminent war with the Germans. The metallurgical department of the company provided the armor of sufficient thickness, Schneider hurried to provide the remaining turrets with 105mm guns and Renault also delivered the engines, despite the fact the FCM engineers already proposed an alternative propulsion system with marine diesels. There was also a practical reason for all the haste: it was almost Autumn and there was no way the superheavy vehicle would pass the tests in Fall mud.
    你们可能应该知道,FCM其实是一家造船厂,而且我们也知道,船的大小和坦克的大小完全不是一回事,这也是f1的个头跟其他坦克比显得如此夸张的原因,毕竟FCM公司甚至动用了某些“干船坞”来建造这辆怪物。同时,由于军方要求一次性交付12辆坦克而非一辆原型车,公司还要承受项目翻车的风险(想想隔壁保时捷虎王的下场就知道了)。很明显,军方急于要坦克的原因是来自于隔壁德国的战争威胁。炼钢厂为公司提供足够厚度的装甲板,施耐德加班加点生产需要的105mm主炮,雷诺也为其提供引擎,虽然FCM公司已经试着把船用柴油发动机装上了车。除此之外,抢工还有一个很现实的原因:因为秋季即将到来,而秋季的阴雨和泥泞会让如此笨重的车辆无法通过测试。


    IP属地:中国香港2楼2018-09-17 16:42
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      The war and necessity always provided the best incentives for development and where the French previously spent years drawing, re-drawing and designing, they could have managed in this case to build the prototype in 5 months. The main issue was the smaller turret for the 47mm gun, that would go thru several evolutions, until it would finally be considered useless and its constuction was given up for now. And so, the vehicle would pass the October 1940 tests (5 months from May) without one of its turrets.
      国际间的紧张局势很明显激励了坦克的开发进度,之前法国人一直在绘图和修改方案之间磨洋工,现在他们不得不在5个月内把原型车制造出来。坦克的主要问题在于前方的那个小炮塔,尽管经过了几次升级和更迭,最后还是被判定为无用并停止了制造。这样的话坦克就可以在1940年的10月(也就是5月份的5个月之后)完成测试,虽然缺一个炮塔。


      IP属地:中国香港3楼2018-09-17 16:44
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        Despite the army being skeptic, the superheavy vehicle would show its better side. The dieselectric transmission allowed the 140 ton vehicle to turn on the spot and the 1100hp engines propelled the leviathan quite well, even on quite steep slopes. And the 105mm gun was simply insane. In parallel to the tests, the 120mm armor plates (that simulated the vehicle frontal and side armor) were also tested on the proving grounds. They could not be penetrated even by the most advanced French 75mm guns! Of course, there were issues too, especially with the suspension and the fact the vehicle was too heavy. The design of the tracks was also far from ideal and other flaws concerned the periscopes and other devices allowing the crew to look out (insufficient) – the list of problems was in fact very long, but the main goal was reached: the superheavy assault tank was accepted in service and the order for 12 vehicles was confirmed.
        其实这辆超级重坦还是有些可圈可点之处的。柴电驱动系统可以让这辆140吨的如同一只灵活的利维坦,1100马力能让这辆坦克爬上非常陡的高坡。105炮的威力大到令人震惊。在测试中120mm的装甲(推算出的坦克正面和侧面装甲)也在测试场上经过了测试,即便是法国最强的75mm反坦克炮也难以击穿它!当然问题也是存在的,主要是是脆弱的悬挂,以及这辆车的体重带来的杂七杂八的毛病。履带的设计也不尽如人意,并且成员只能通过潜望镜观察外面(很不方便),总之问题很多,但是起码主要目标达到了:f1超重型坦克被批准入役,军方一共订了12辆该型坦克。


        IP属地:中国香港4楼2018-09-17 16:45
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          The FCM workshops were bustling with activity: 12 tanks, all 75 percent completed, were waiting to be finished. The construction of them began with significant risk for the company before the final approval, but this risk allowed to send the tanks to the army well ahead of the deadline, after the order was finally approved. True, most of the corrections the army requested afterwards were not implemented, but F1′s successor – the F2 – was already starting to appear on the designer drawing boards. The F2 was to have all the wishes and improvements the army wanted for the F1 design.
          FCM公司遇到了困难:12辆坦克,都卡在75%的完成度上,无法完成交货。FCM公司在最终批示下来之前就开始制了制造,这为公司带来了巨大的风险,不过这样的风险却能保证坦克能够按时交货。虽然军队还没有正式下令进购F1,F1的更新换代产品F2就已经开始在设计师们的绘图板上出现了。F2将试图满足军方提出的一切要求以及改进。


          IP属地:中国香港5楼2018-09-17 16:47
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            The hull was now wider, but a bit shorter and to improve terrain pas****lity, the vehicle recieved dual track and all the turrets were fitted with artillery rangefinders. The armament was also changed: instead of the 47mm gun, that was useless in fighting enemy fortifications, the forward turret recieved a 105mm Schneider Mle.1936 howitzer. This is how it would have looked (compared to the old F1):
            车体相较于原来更加宽,但是也稍微短了一点,提高了坦克的地形通过能力,另外坦克还配备双履带,炮塔上也加装了测距仪。武器配置也发生了改变:他们去掉了无用的47mm的火炮,换上了105mm施耐德1936型火炮。它的样子应该是这样的:


            IP属地:中国香港6楼2018-09-17 16:48
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              IP属地:中国香港7楼2018-09-17 16:48
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                In the meanwhile, 12 FCM F1 superheavy tanks were transferred to the army on 23.2.1941. They formed a separate tank batallion and until summer they were used for propaganda purposes – the appearance of this monster on the front lines improved the combat spirit of French soldiers and it made the civillians believe that the home industry too can produce superweapons to fight the enemy. As a result, FCM got an oder for 36 more superheavy tanks and began to work on it.
                同时,12辆F1超重型坦克于1941年2月23日交付军队。当年的夏天,它们被分配与不同的坦克联队,主要用于宣传——这种怪兽级的坦克是法军士兵们的信仰,对于法国民众来说则是法军实力足以保家卫国的证明。结果就是,FCM又收到了36辆的追加订单。


                IP属地:中国香港8楼2018-09-17 16:49
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                  Problems came around Summer 1941 – overloaded with the amount of military orders, the company Schneider did not succeed in producing the required amount of turrets (now, they had not only to produce the rear turrets, but the front turrets as well). This allowed Nicholas Strauss-Kahn, a young designer at FCM, to develop his idea of arming the FCM F1. He proposed to use the F1 chassis to produce a superheavy self-propelled gun. This decision was forced by the lack of turrets, but it turned out to be a good one.
                  问题于1941年夏天开始显现出来——因为需要建造的东西太多,施耐德公司产能受限,难以制造需要的火炮数量(现在他们要前后两个炮塔都造出来才行了)。于是FCM的年轻设计师尼古拉斯·斯特劳斯·卡恩设计出了适合F1底盘的新的武器方案。他将F1改造成为超重型自行火炮。这个想法虽然是因为缺少炮塔而产生的灵光一闪,但是的确是不错的想法。


                  IP属地:中国香港9楼2018-09-17 16:51
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                    The idea itself was not new: the French built such self-propelled guns as early as WW1 before, when St.Chamond built what was basically an artillery tractor, connected to a self-propelled gun. Considering the fact there was a huge number of artillery calibers in service, the developers decided not to limit themselves by one. Prototypes were made with both 194mm and 280mm guns, but also with the 220mm Schneider M17 howitzer. By the way, they were mobilized again in 1939 and proved to be quite effective against German field fortifications. This is how it looked:
                    这种想法并非第一次出现:远在一战时法国人就做过类似的事情,基本就是把拖曳火炮的圣西蒙坦克改装成自行火炮。考虑到法军库存火炮口径众多,所以他们放飞了想象力,并没有拘泥于一款火炮上。原型车设计采用口径为194mm和280mm的火炮,但也考虑采用施耐德M17 220mm主炮。顺达议题,这些火炮都于1939年拉出来遛了一下,并且证明了自己是歼灭德军野战工事的一把好手。M17火炮的照片如下:


                    IP属地:中国香港10楼2018-09-17 16:52
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                      Either way, now the idea was to install the French 155mm Canon de 155 Grande Puissance Filloux (GPF) mle.1917 high-power howitzer on the F1 chassis. This gun would fit perfectly into the huge assault tank. As FCM already had enough experience with “risking” building something before the army orders came thru, it decided to tried its luck one more time and to start building 4 of these turretless tanks. During the construction process, the rear part of the vehicle housed now a superstructure, made of 60mm plates. Inside this superstructure there was the modified 155mm GPF gun plus the ammunition. The access to the superstructure was allowed via a passage in the rear part of the vehicle. The frontal turret was also not installed, there was just a miniturret with two 7,5mm machineguns on the roof of the superstructure, that could – if necessery – fire also at airborne targets.
                      最终决定1917型 155mm GPF 大威力榴弹炮将被装上F1的底盘。这门炮可以轻松装上这辆巨型突击坦克上。FCM对于“冒险行为”已经非常有经验了,于是他们决定再冒险一次,制造四辆这种突击炮。在建造过程中,车体的后半部分装了一个战斗室,装甲厚度60mm。在战斗室内部还装有155mm GPF火炮以及其所使用的炮弹。车体的后方有一个门,可以从那个门进入车辆的后部。原来前部的炮塔被取消掉了,取而代之的是一个装在战斗室顶部的小炮塔,上面装有两挺7.5mm机枪,在必要的时候可以起到防空的作用。



                      IP属地:中国香港11楼2018-09-17 16:53
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                        In the beginning of 1942, the French started finally mass-producing the FCM F2, replacing the previous model in the Toulon FCM plant production. However, despite the experience gathered previously, the production of superheavy tanks remained to be a complicated and very expensive thing. At the same time, the army started to re-evaluate the need for superheavy tanks too, especially since one such a vehicle, that was already proving to be somewhat obsolete, “ate” enough resources to produce ten G2 or several ARL42 tanks (SS: both are fictional designs in this “alternate time line”). Also, on the field of battle, the F1 was a really big target for the German aircraft. The F3A artillery however proved to be very effective artillery piece.
                        1942年初,法国人开始了最后一批FCMF2的生产。尽管法国人对超重型坦克的生产可以说很有经验,但从工艺角度来说超重型坦克还是还是一种复杂而昂贵的物件。同时军队也开始考量超重型坦克的能力与价值——生产一台f2坦克的资源足够生产10辆G2或者好几辆ARL42坦克(作者:两辆都是虚构的仅在这条世界线里出现的坦克)。另外在战场上,f1坦克目标大,是德国飞机的重点攻击对象,但是F3A却被证实为优秀的火炮单位。


                        IP属地:中国香港12楼2018-09-17 16:54
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                          As a result of this experience, it was decided to gradually cancel the production of the superheavy F2 and to develop a new SPG on its basis – but this time for the 194mm GPF gun. The prototype was built in Summer 1943 and after the tests the mass-production started. It had a new chassis with torsion bar suspension and single wide tracks (not doubled anymore). The French partially copied German solutions and made the roadwheels cover themselves partially like in the Tiger (of course, the French swore they came up with it first). The 194mm gun with wide traverse angles was installed in a more spacy superstructure. To compensate for the massive recoil of the gun, the vehicle recieved a large brace in the rear part. A miniturret with twin AA Hotchkiss 13,2mm machinegun was installed on the superstructure.
                          经过以上一系列教训后,法国人决定取消f2的生产,但是在其基础上开发新的自行榴弹炮-但是装备的却是194mm的主炮。原型车于1943年建成,经过测试后开始在法军服役。悬挂采用扭力梁结构和单层双履带(有别于之前的双层)。法国人采用了隔壁德国人的解决方案,负重轮为双层(当然法国人表示我们是自己搞的)。194mm主炮装在一个诡异的战斗室上。为了抵消巨炮带来的巨大后坐力,该车采用了巨大的驻锄。战斗室顶端还装有带一个双联装哈奇开斯机枪的小炮塔。




                          IP属地:中国香港13楼2018-09-17 16:54
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                            ok 就这么多
                            下一篇我已经选好了 应该是UC地盘(英国的通用地盘,就是2级TD用的那个玩意)在德国的一些服役记录
                            嗯 就这样吧


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