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Quora:为什么没人意识到川普是咱们遇到过最好的一届总统?

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川普本人其实没什么好谈的了,但看到标题我就想翻译了(゜▽゜)

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IP属地:加拿大1楼2018-04-24 12:15回复
    这个回复可能就是被一楼高高挂起的某错字百出的回复,有好几处拼写错误
    它也被三楼婊了
    Dennis Weidner
    President Washington and Lincoln are hard acts to follow. I like President Trump, but would not call him a great president at this stage. It is to soon to tell and if the American people will give him the time to implement his policies. I think his policies are important steps in the right direction.
    He understands that capitalism is the only way to provide Americans a prosperous future. The tax cuts and rescinding regulations are important steps in the right direction.
    He understands that President Obama allowed the military to deteriorate, a terrible mistake in a very dangerous world.
    He understands that the Europeans must pay ytheir fair sxhare of our mutual defense and that America can not continue to pock up most of the tab.
    He understands the importance of the energy industry and the importance in both economic and security matters.
    He understands that North Korean has to be delay with after President Obama allowed them to acquire nuclear weapons and long range delivery systems.
    He understands that President Obama’s policy of appeasement with North Korea and Iran will bear tragic consequences.
    He enforced President Obama’s Red Line in Syria, understanding
    He understood the terrible consequences of Obama not moving with force against ISIS. (The refugee wave was destabilizing the EU.) Within a year under President Trump, the military has been given the support it needed to eviscerate ISIS.
    He understands the importance of enforcing immigration law.
    He understands the importance of appointing judges who rule based on the Constitution rather than liberal ideology.
    He understands the impending crisis of the ballooning national debt. But without Democratic support is unable to do anything about it.
    He understands the need to adjust trade policy to make sure Americans receive the benefits of free trade, only possible if it is also fair trade.
    He understands the importance of freedom OF religion which does not mean freedom FROM religion.
    He understands the way that the national media is abusing the First Amendment but becoming an arm of the Democratic Party and only presenting one side of many important national issues.
    He understands the importance of supporting Israel. And he has managed to do so without alienating the Arabs. He has made some progress in convincing the Arabs that Israel and Jews are not the real threat.
    总统华盛顿和林肯都难以被超越。我喜欢川普,但在目前阶段还不会承认他是个好总统,因为这样一来定论就下早了;美国人应当给他足够的时间去执行政策以证明他自己。我认为他所提出的政策很重要,且方向都是对的。
    1. 他明白唯有资本主义能够为美国的未来带来繁荣与昌盛。他的减税与废除一系列税收条款的计划正是通往正确道路的重要一步。
    2. 他明白总统奥巴马的允让使得美国的军事实力受到了扼制,而在水深火热的当今世上,这无疑是一个致命的错误。
    3. 他明白欧洲必须为共同防御付出公平的代价,而不是一味地由美国去承担起一切责任。
    4. 他明白能源产业、经济与安全保障的重要性。
    5. 他明白,在奥巴马允许朝鲜拥有核武与远程弹道导弹后,美国应当竭力阻止。
    6. 他明白奥巴马对朝鲜和伊朗的绥靖政策将会孕育出悲剧的后果。
    7. 他加强了奥巴马曾在叙利亚“划下”的红线。
    8. 他明白奥巴马当年不与其它反ISIS势力共进退后所带来的严重后果(难民潮正在动摇欧盟,使其不稳)。川普上台的一年之内,对抗ISIS所行使的军事力量便得到了支持,恐怖组织的内脏被切除分解。
    9. 他明白移民法的重要性。
    10. 他明白任命法官时因以宪法而非意识形态为依据的重要性。
    11. 他明白迫在眉睫的通胀与国债问题将为他美国带来危机。然而,没有民主的支持他什么也不能做。
    12. 他明白为了让美国人从自由贸易中获利,对目前的贸易政策进行调整是必须的。
    13. 他明白“宗教自由(freedom of religion)”和“过度的宗教自由(freedom from religion)”是不一样的。
    *在这个层主看来,这里freedom of指“对……的自由”,freedom from本身的含义则表示一种解脱,免于受到任何人事物的束缚,所以这里我把它翻译成过度的宗教自由。
    14. 他明白美国宪法第一修正案正在被国际媒体,尤其是民主党滥用,以至于人们仅能看到许多全国性问题的单独一面。
    15. 他明白支持以色列的重要性,也打算在不与阿拉伯联合的情况下这么做。在劝服阿拉伯“以色列人和犹太人并不是真正的威胁”这件事上,他取得了一些进展。


    IP属地:加拿大4楼2018-04-24 12:18
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      啊..一楼被吞了


      IP属地:加拿大6楼2018-04-24 12:19
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        补发一楼,分开发
        Mark Bernheim
        Is there really a reason to answer a question that is inherently stupid in its premise. I noticed that one person did, and came up with some stupidity about Trump versus the Deep State (replete with drunken misspellings).
        Assuming that you are serious, you are clearly more stupid than can be imagined. There will be millions answers telling you why Trump is a horrible person and terrible president, but you are too stupid to see how stupid you are. What has Donald Trump ever done for you?
        Unless you see the presidency as some prize for rich people with time on their hands, your view of Trump as any better than the worst president we have ever had is delusional. It’s nonstop golf and TV for him. They can’t abbreviate the briefings enough for him because he is practically illiterate and has the attention span of a three-year-old with ADD.
        His two big legislative accomplishments have been to carry out the GOP’s death wish for the Supreme Court and to pass the most gratuitous tax gift to the super rich ever. I really don’t trust questions that suggest an answer, but one person answering in favor of Trump was an electrical engineer who noted that, like Trump, his income helped him score with the ladies.
        What a dumbass!
        Not only is it weird that someone would think that being an alleged chick magnet has something to do with presidential qualifications. With Trump, it’s more about being rapey and assaultive. I hope you enjoy paying into Social Security because it will probably have to be sacrificed to pay rich people’s taxes. I hope that you are assured of being able to supply yourself with insurance because Medicare and Medicaid are all in peril.
        I really want to scream, “Wake up goddammit,” but I seriously don’t trust a question that is already based on a stupid answer. There is barely a reason to recognize Trump as president, let alone the best. It’s not like he asked, “Is Trump a good president?” Of course, he is not even close to good. He’s too ignorant and lazy to do the job, and he and his family are too corrupt to see their way past serving themselves. It’s like Tony Soprano moved into the White House.


        IP属地:加拿大7楼2018-04-24 12:20
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          有什么理由去回答这种前提本身就蠢得要命的问题吗。我发现还真有个人答了,用他通篇的错别字和愚蠢的观点谈论了川普是如何对抗深层政府的*。
          假设你提出这个问题不是为了开玩笑,那你的蠢可以说是超乎人想象。网上有数百万计的回答能告诉你川普身为人类和总统而言是多么地糟糕、可怕,然而你蠢得连自己有多蠢都不知道。川普是对你施过什么恩么?
          除非在你看来总统的身份对于手中有大把闲时间的富人来说不过是一项战利品,否则你认为川普比其他总统都来得好的认知就是一种妄想。政治对川普来说就是一项永不停息的高尔夫运动和电视节目般的消遣,毕竟他就是个连指示都没法简略传达的宛如患有注意力缺失症的三岁幼童兼文盲。
          他在立法上取得的两项成就,一是使得共和党能够削减最高法院的权力;二是通过一项毫无理由的专给富人减税的法案。我实在不信这种前提本身就存在错误的问题下的答案,不过我发现帖子里有个支持川普的电气工程师,说收入提高有助于他把妹。
          这智商没救了!
          虽然一个弱不禁风的少女杀手和总统身份必定无缘,但反之像川普这种带有侵略性、进攻性的人,我希望你能够享受缴纳社保的这一过程,因为那些钱大概都被用去填补富人少交的税上了。我也希望你能够享受缴纳目前岌岌可危的医疗保险和医疗补助的过程。
          我真的很想大大喊一声“傻哔快醒醒,”但认真讲我觉得会提出这种问题的人也没救了。几乎没有什么理由能够证明川普是名合格的总统,那么这种问题放着不管才是最好的。提问的人问的甚至不是“川普是个好总统吗?”当然,川普和好这个字眼根本搭不上关系。在工作上,他太过疏忽大意且懒惰,而他和他的家人也过于腐败,行事的基准都建立在服务自己上面。这就像是托尼索普拉诺(黑帮大佬)住进白宫一样。
          *深层政府(deep state/ statewithin a state):一个阴谋论,指非经民选,由军事工业复合体/金融巨头/情报机构所组成的,为保护其利益,幕后真正控制国家的集团。(摘自唯基百科)


          IP属地:加拿大8楼2018-04-24 12:21
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            这个人在怼二楼的层主
            Ray Martin
            I am going to comment on Dennis Weidnet answer since I down voted it;
            He understands Capitalism only where it benefits him, tax cuts are good when applied in the right direction. Trickle down has never worked and never will, give tax cuts to the people who buy not the people who produce. Jobs are created when the demand is high, costs are lower, and jobs are created.
            Military deterioration began in 70 under Nixon when he cut back in recruitment and military equipment (contracts) not Obama!
            We tend to supply the most in military and equipment and expect to be the leader which does cost more. We lead and have to pay the price.
            He understands the hotel and casino business. Has no idea of energy, economics or security.
            Again blaming Obama for something he had no control over.
            Really the same as number 5. There was no appeasement, but treaties which Trump violated.
            Wow, an agreement with Obama, surprising.
            Again the Obama blame, when he should be pointing the finger at Shrub (Bush junior) for letting the Taliban have free reign in the middle east.
            Now this is a laugh, enforcing immigration law? When a large portion of his hotel employees are illegals! But hey lets forget that Obama actually deported more immigrants than Reagan, Bush the 1st, Clinton and Bush the 2nd deported.
            Judges base decision on the Constitution, do some research.
            He has no idea of national debt, his recent signing of the spending bill shows that. Remember both Republicans and Democrats supported the spending bill no matter the cost.
            Trade you say? His trade will cost us more.
            Actually you are wrong and freedom of religion means that all religions are free to be here and that also includes freedom from religion. Islam is a religion and has the same rights as Christianity.
            Wow, again such nonsense. You don’t think that Fox news other the other conservative media outlets are not abusing the first amendment. Sir you are showing your ignorance and stupidity.
            Another fool who turns a blind eye to what is happening in that area of the middle east. Trump is doing his best to offend the Arab countries and did so in his travel bans.
            Dennis you really need to vary your news reporting since news is something Fox has not done in years. While you like to blame Democrats for their failures you really need to look in the mirror and see why this country is going down hill.


            IP属地:加拿大9楼2018-04-24 12:21
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              1. 他只在对自身有利的情况下才明白资本主义的好。当实施的方向正确时,减税这一措施固然是好的;然而,当减税对象是制造产品而非购买产品的群体时,税收下降永远不会带来什么正面结果。只有当需求高而成本低时,工作才会被创造出来。
              2. 早在70年代尼克松就任总统、废除征兵制和限制军事装备的时候起美国的军事实力便已经被削弱了,和奥巴马无关。
              3. 提供军事装备最多并想要成为领头羊的就是我们。因此我们自然耗费更多、肩负更多。
              4. 他了解酒店和赌场行业,但对能源,经济和安全保障可不清楚。
              5. 老问题,你又在职责奥巴马不去做一些他无法控制的事情。
              6. 同5。根本没有什么姑息政策,只有一些川普违反了的条约。
              7. 哇,和奥巴马的条约?吃惊。(意思应该是说禁止化学武器条约和奥巴马无关)
              8. 又在责怪奥巴马,箭头明明该指向让塔利班能够自由掌控中东的灌木丛。
              *灌木丛是shrub,乔治布什的布什是bush,bush和shrub……一个冷笑话
              9. 这就是个笑话了,说川普加强实施了移民法?在他的大部分酒店员工都是非法移民的情况下?嗯不过就让我们忘了比起罗纳德里根、克林顿、老布什和小布什,奥巴马曾驱逐过更多非法移民出境这一事实吧。
              10. 法官的判决本就是基于宪法的,多上网查查资料。
              11. 他最近签署的支出法案证明了他并不清楚国债是什么。别忘了共和党跟民主党都支持通过支出法案,无论耗费是多少。
              12. 你说贸易?他的贸易只会让我们付出更多。
              13. 关于这两个词组的看法其实你是错的。“宗教自由(freedom of religion)”的意思是所有的宗教都有权利存在于此,而“从信仰中得来自由(freedom from religion)”则包含在其中。伊斯兰教也是一个宗教,它拥有和基督教一样的权利。
              *我已经不知道该怎么翻第二个词组了……上网查了一下,根据定义的不同,这个词组所包含的意义就不同。它既可以被理解为是一种过度的宗教自由,也可以被理解为和宗教自由这个词组本身并无多大差别。
              14. 哇,又是一个毫无意义的观点。你的无知和愚蠢让你无视了福克斯新闻还有其它保守派媒体也在滥用宪法第一修正案这一事情。
              15. 川普不过是选择性失明地将发生在中东的事当作什么都没看见。他可是在尽自己最大的努力支持阿拉伯国家,比如他签署的旅行禁令。
              丹尼斯(二楼层主的ID)你真的该多扩展一下你所接触的新闻报道的类型,毕竟福克斯新闻都多少年没报道过新闻了。在你将错误都怪罪到民主党身上时,照照镜子看看让美国走下坡路的真正原因究竟是什么。


              IP属地:加拿大10楼2018-04-24 12:22
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                John Walker II
                The cult of personality has all the same trappings that someone who relies on religion to do his thinking for him has.
                As AntiCitizenX on YouTube has said, “Religion is not the problem. Religion is merely a symptom. The real problem is a pervasive human tendency for making up unjustifiable beliefs and then clinging to them as if they were pure, inerrant truth. We cannot just reason people out of their faith because reason never played any part in their beliefs to begin with. The only way to free people from the demons of faith and superstition is to overhaul their entire sense of epistemology. Do not attack the beliefs. Attack the justification, and the rest will follow.”
                Replace religion with ‘political fanaticism’ and you’ll have the exact same scenario.
                在对个体的思想产生影响这一层面上,(对特定党派、政治人士的)人格崇拜与宗教崇拜别无二致。
                油管上有位叫作AntiCitizenX的主播说过,“宗教信仰从来就不是什么问题。它只是一种症状。真正的问题存在于人类在信仰的过程普遍会产生出的不合理的狂热,这份狂热驱使他们将自己的信仰视作纯粹无误的真理。我们不能通过理性去说服他们,因为任何信仰都不可能始于理性。将人们从狂信的恶魔中解放出来的唯一方式就是彻底改变他们的知识观。没有攻击信仰本身的必要。仅抓住其正当性不放,那么剩下的便会不攻自破。”
                把宗教信仰这个词跟政治狂热对调,你会发现都是一样的。
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1A9vrsw6Hw&feature=youtu.be
                这是AntiCitizenX的整个系列,也许看了后你就会明白自己是错误的……却拒绝去承认这个错误。


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                    IP属地:安徽来自Android客户端14楼2018-04-24 12:27
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                      又被吞了
                      Wayne Bannon
                      You may be interested to now that last month a panel of 170 presidential politics experts considers Trump the worst president in history, according to rankings published by the New York Times. Obama is 8th, with Lincoln, Washington and Franklin Roosevelt holding the top three spots. The same experts ranked Buchanan last and Obama 18th in 2014.
                      Notable movements: Clinton slid from 8th to 13th and Jackson from 9th to 15th, "arguably the result of contemporary scorn for [Clinton's] treatment of women, and for evolving attitudes and recently renewed review [Jackson's] treatment of Native Americans," per the Times. George W. Bush moved from 35th up to 30th.
                      Top 10:
                      Lincoln
                      Washington
                      F.D. Roosevelt
                      T. Roosevelt
                      Jefferson
                      Truman
                      Eisenhower
                      Obama
                      Reagan
                      L.B. Johnson
                      Trump may in fact be the best President You ever had but for the overwhelming majority of Americans he is a disgrace and a stain on our constitutional form of government.


                      IP属地:加拿大15楼2018-04-24 12:27
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                        川普对美国来说好不好,全看他在位期间能够把中国压制到什么程度。
                        其他的对美国来说都是次要的,甚至可以说全世界其他势力捅了再大的窟窿,美国都能稳座有利位置。哪怕世界经济崩溃,美国也毫不畏惧。
                        而美国地位不保,则意味着美国失去一切。


                        IP属地:江西16楼2018-04-24 12:28
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                          你可能会对最近170个政治活动专家对川普的看法感兴趣,根据在纽约时报上刊登的2018美国总统评选结果可知,他被认为是史上最差的一届总统。奥巴马排在第八位,而林肯、华盛顿和罗斯福则在前三。同样的一批专家,在2014年的投票中詹姆斯打了最低分,奥巴马则在第18位。
                          值得注意的几个变化:克林顿从第8位落到了第13位,杰克逊则第9位降到了第15位,“这可以说是群众对克林顿对女性所实行的政策、待遇感到不屑的结果,以及对杰克逊在处理原住民待遇问题时的重新审视后所致的结果”。乔治布什从第35位上升到了第30位。
                          前10:
                          亚伯拉罕·林肯
                          乔治·华盛顿
                          富兰克林·罗斯福
                          西奥多·罗斯福
                          托马斯·杰斐逊
                          哈里·S·杜鲁门
                          德怀特·戴维·艾森豪威尔
                          贝拉克·侯赛因·奥巴马
                          罗纳德·威尔逊·里根
                          林登·贝恩斯·约翰逊
                          川普可能确实是你见到过最好的总统,但在美国压倒性的多数群体心中他就是我们宪政政体一个不光彩的污渍。


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