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【J文章】2015年7月Details杂志访谈

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From the sociopathic, hollowed-out scavenger of Nightcrawler to the desperate, bulked-up brawler in this month’s Southpaw, Jake Gyllenhaal has pushed his body and psyche to the brink, cementing his status as an Oscar front-runner and Hollywood’s most dangerous man.


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从《夜行者》中的那个不爱社交的,空虚的清道夫转变成在这个月上映的《左撇子》当中不顾一切的,强壮的拳击手, Jake Gyllenhaal能让自己的身心都处于一种濒临绝境的状态,这样一来能够巩固他作为一个奥斯卡领军者和好莱坞最有竞争力的人的地位。


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Do you actually want to know how many sit-ups I did?” Jake Gyllenhaal asks me. “Are you easing me into the question?”
Jake Gyllenhaal这样问我“你到底想不想知道我能做多少个俯卧撑?”


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We’re halfway through dinner at Gracias Madre, a vegan Mexican restaurant in Los Angeles—though neither of us is vegan—and there have been a few interruptions. A table of young women next to us has grown progressively louder throughout the evening, either because of successive margaritas or, more likely, because of proximity to the A-lister.


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我们在Gracis Madre吃饭吃到一半,在这之中有好多小插曲。这是一家开在洛杉矶的素食主义的墨西哥餐馆, 虽然我们都不是素食主义者。坐在我们桌旁边的一位年轻女士一整个晚上说话越来越大声。也许是因为喝了太多的玛格丽特鸡尾酒或者与这位一线明星离得近了一些(第二个原因更有可能)。


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Gyllenhaal’s sister, Maggie, in town for just the day and also not a vegan, has stopped by unexpectedly, asking whether Jake got her text to meet her here. (He didn’t.) And an unapologetic fan has just arrived tableside asking for a photo, a request Gyllenhaal politely—and almost unsuccessfully—declines. (He: “I’m just doing an interview”; she: “Will you be long?”)


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It’s not the kind of ribbing you can imagine Christian Bale playing along with (“Now, exactly what did you binge on to gain that paunch for American Hustle?”), and it’s even harder to imagine Robert De Niro, jump rope in hand, recounting his Raging Bull regimen. Gyllenhaal has never shied away from rigorous training: The five months he spent learning to box for Southpaw are reminiscent of the five months in 2011 he spent immersed in the world of Los Angeles police work in preparation for the 22-day End of Watch shoot—from ride-alongs to shooting practice to fire training (“That’s where you run into a burning building,” he explains). The physical metamorphosis is really just an externalization of a process he goes through for every role.


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它不是那种玩笑话。你能想象克里斯蒂安·贝尔扮演伴随着这些话(“现在,正是你怎么狂欢就可以获得了大肚子的美国骗局?”),然而更难想象的是罗伯特·德尼罗单单用手条绳子讲述了他愤怒的公牛方案。吉伦哈尔从来没有回避任何严格的训练:他花了五个月学习左撇子的各种事,这五个月是在2011年最值得人回味的时间。在这五个月,他沉浸在洛杉矶警方的工作世界中,并且为观看拍摄22天的影片做准备- 从骑车驾驶到投篮练习射击训练(“就是这样跑进了燃烧的大楼,”他解释说)。身体上的改造确实是一个只是一个从外表上更深一步的改变他经历的每一个角色。


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“I believe that. I really do,” Gyllenhaal says. “But I think we all see what we want to see. If you want to see a guy who has gotten into shape, then that’s what you see. But if you want to see what I feel, I think you have to look a little deeper.”


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“我相信这些。我真的可以这么做”,他说。“但是我相信大家都想看到我们想看到的东西。如果你想看到一个已经改造过的男人,这就是你们看到的样子。但是如果你们想看到我怎么想的,我相信你们应该更深层次的来看透我。”


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There’s a pause as Gyllenhaal considers what he’s saying, or maybe how he’s saying it, and then a slight course correction. The point may be better made with the easygoing, sly sense of humor that’s always close at hand. “People have a lot of other shit they have to do that’s more interesting and more important, so I don’t blame them for being like, ‘Oh, wait, how many sit-ups did you have to do?’ Or, ‘Oh, wow, what did you eat to lose that much weight?’ But you’re missing the point. Nightcrawler was ironically about the trouble with that question. It was about why people only look at how much weight you lost, as opposed to what’s at the heart of what you’re doing. In that world, where we just focus on those things, somebody like Lou Bloom thrives. In fact, he rules.”


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有这样一个停顿,当吉伦哈尔正在考虑他应该说什么,或者他该怎么说,然后小幅修正他的措辞。然而,应该要时刻记得说话的时候会应该有着幽默随和,狡猾的感觉。 “人们总是想着把事情做的更有趣,更重要的,所以我不责怪他们正在想,'等等,你可以做说少个仰卧起坐?'或者说,'哦,哇,那你吃了什么东西才减掉那么多体重?“但是你错过了一点。夜行者这部戏是跟这些东西有讽刺意味的。这是为什么人只看你有减掉了多少体重,而不是看在你自己的内心,你做了些什么。在这个世界里,我们只专注于那些东西,就像有人喜欢Lou Bloom的发展情况。事实上,他成功了“。


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In 2010, Gyllenhaal stared into the mirror, saw a leading man looking back, and blinked—or so the line on him goes. That was the year that he starred in Love & Other Drugs, the romantic comedy in which he played a frequently undressed pharmaceutical rep, and Prince of Persia, a big-budget sword-and-sandals epic adapted from a video-game series. Neither movie fared well critically or commercially, and since then he’s been making what are referred to in Hollywood as “interesting choices,” chasing drug cartels (End of Watch), kidnappers (the disturbing abduction drama Prisoners), car accidents (Nightcrawler), and—in Denis Villeneuve’s strange and dreamy Enemy—himself through films that offered little in the way of box-office glory and plenty of chances to map out darkness. And if that weren’t enough artistic cred, Gyllenhaal also explored theater, starring in two dramas by the British playwright Nick Payne, If There Is I Haven’t Found It Yet and Constellations, his Broadway debut. This account of his turn toward the bleak and unconventional is so much the accepted wisdom that before he collects me at my hotel for dinner, a friend in New York e-mails, “I hope he picks you up in a shitty Kia . . . just the latest in his bold, unexpected Hollywood choices.”


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2010年,吉伦哈尔盯着镜子,回过头看到了男主角并且眨了眨眼,或者在等他走。就在这一年,他在爱情与灵药这部浪漫喜剧中,他扮演一个经常不穿衣服的医药代表,然而在波斯王子这部电影当中,大预算的古装动作史诗片改编自一个视频游戏。无论是表现不俗被批判的或者是商业化的电影,从那时起,他一直在做一件事被好莱坞称为“有趣的选择”。这些选择包括追毒品卡特尔(火线赤子情),绑匪(令人不安的囚徒),车祸(夜行者),并且在丹尼斯维伦纽夫的陌生和梦幻般的敌人这部剧当中,自己通过大量的票房和机会,在影片很少的情况下,筹划出黑暗的方式。如果这还不够有艺术性的可靠度,吉伦哈尔还探索戏剧,由英国剧作家尼克·佩恩主演的两部剧,分别是如果有我还没有发现以及星座,都是他的百老汇处女作。他面对惨淡和非常规的事情,选择在此时转型是很聪明的。而且在他接我在酒店吃饭前,在纽约电子邮件的朋友告诉他,“我希望他拿起一个低劣的起亚。 。 。只是最近他的勇敢和无法预计的好莱坞选择。”


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