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继续补充几个打脸党作品
http://kickass.to/community/show/yify-vs-other-encoders-resolution-vs-bitrate-discussion/?page=6
这个讨论还是有点质量的,我觉得FLiCKSiCK和Judas的压制也值得关注。等我下载完成了继续发参数。
JYK 3.2GB vs FLiCKSiCK 1.9GB
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/45415
ViSiON 3.65GB vs FLiCKSiCK 1.9GB
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/45396
EVO 3.6GB vs FLiCKSiCK 1.9GB
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/45399
YiFY vs FLiCKSiCK (even if it's not really fair, since my filesize is twice)
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/45403


IP属地:北京36楼2014-05-14 17:42
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    Judas-黑客帝国1-1080p-9.32Mbps
    似乎这位的压制参数就是tune film + preset placeo?但是不知道为啥加了一个 bluray_compat=1
    可能的争议点 crf = 19 同时 mbtree=1
    cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=tesa / subme=11 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=18 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=48 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=48 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=19.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00


    IP属地:北京37楼2014-05-14 17:53
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      LynxTWO,KAT上某个产量不高的个人编码者
      The Skin I Live In-1080P-码率3.2Mbps
      AVS脚本:
      LoadPlugin("C:\RipBot\Tools\AviSynth plugins\flash3kyuu_deband\flash3kyuu_deband.dll")
      video=FFT3DGPU(video,sigma=3.00, bt=4, sharpen=0.5).f3kdb
      Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=3200 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=62500 / vbv_bufsize=62500 / nal_hrd=vbr / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
      此人另外一个1080p的参数似乎有不小的变化
      qcomp=0.8 和 aq 1:0.5的组合
      Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-2:-2 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.25 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=6,6 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-4 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=3400 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.80 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=62500 / vbv_bufsize=62500 / nal_hrd=vbr / ip_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:0.50


      IP属地:北京39楼2014-05-15 15:08
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        前面HighCode 9G 碾压HDWing 13G(因为HDWing只搞了 1pass)的编码参数
        cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=11 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=180 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=18.8 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=62500 / vbv_bufsize=78125 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.80
        包含了TrueHD之后总码率只有8.34MBps。
        难道做了降噪?


        IP属地:北京40楼2014-05-16 00:47
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          HDWing小组的波动真不小,今年的另外一个
          The.Machine.2013.BluRay.720p - 码率 6Mbps
          参数
          Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=9 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=11 / psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.00 / psy_rd=1.10:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=48 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=18 / lookahead_threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / fgo=0 / bframes=10 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=80 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=16.9300 / qcomp=0.70 / qpmin=0:0:0 / qpmax=69:69:69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=62500 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.30 / pb_ratio=1.18 / aq=1:0.70 / aq-sensitivity=10.00 / aq-factor=1.00:1.00:1.00 / aq2=0 / aq3=0
          这个倒是没啥嘈点了,只是单纯对体积的接受度问题了。
          稍微可惜的是音频是DTS 768Kbps


          IP属地:北京42楼2014-05-17 18:58
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            The.Machine.2013.720p -SONiDO - 4.4 Mbps
            cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4416 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
            SONiDO的参数很中庸,trellis=1不爽,subme/bframes稍低。


            IP属地:北京43楼2014-05-17 21:35
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              特别再发一下HDMaNiAcS小组的
              HDMaNiAcS
              Les Miserables 2012
              Encoder.........: munkman
              Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=tesa / subme=11 /
              psy=1 / psy_rd=0.90:0.05 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fas
              t_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0
              / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=7 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_
              gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 /
              bitrate=15500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=400
              00 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.70
              x264 Log :
              x264frame I:1448 Avg QP:15.52 size:254928
              x264frame P:46419 Avg QP:16.54 size:133073
              x264frame B:179292 Avg QP:18.67 size: 65849
              x264consecutive B-frames: 1.3% 1.6% 11.0% 7.7% 12.6% 60.9% 4.2% 0.7%
              encoded 227159 frames, 1.66 fps, 15496.43 kb/s
              47.Ronin.2013.1080p
              Encoder.........: xarisandr
              Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=tesa / subme=11 /
              psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.00 / psy_rd=1.10:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0
              / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=18 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / de
              cimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direc
              t=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40
              / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=14500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblu
              r=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.35 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=3:0.60
              x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.1
              x264 [info]: frame I:1392 Avg QP:15.00 size:240016
              x264 [info]: frame P:46465 Avg QP:16.13 size: 97041
              x264 [info]: frame B:122926 Avg QP:17.54 size: 65507
              x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 4.8% 10.9% 13.7% 13.2% 14.3% 39.0% 2.9% 0.7% 0.5%
              Frozen 2013 1080p
              Encoder.........: munkman
              Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=tesa / subme=11 /
              psy=1 / psy_rd=0.90:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fas
              t_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0
              / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_
              gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 /
              bitrate=11500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=400
              00 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / nal_hrd=none / frame-packing=4 / ip_ratio=1.30 / pb_ratio=1.15 / aq=1:0.70
              x264 [info]: frame I:1251 Avg QP:13.04 size:240455
              x264 [info]: frame P:41193 Avg QP:14.20 size: 96266
              x264 [info]: frame B:104547 Avg QP:14.62 size: 43338
              x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 5.2% 3.8% 14.8% 42.8% 18.2% 14.0% 0.6% 0.2% 0.5%
              The.Avengers
              Encoder.........: xarisandr
              Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=tesa / subme=11 /
              psy=1 / psy_rd=0.95:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fas
              t_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0
              / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_
              gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=13850 / r
              atetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.65 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / a
              q=2:0.60
              Homefront 2013
              Encoder.........: xarisandr
              Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=tesa / subme=11 /
              psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.00 / psy_rd=1.10:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0
              / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=18 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / de
              cimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direc
              t=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40
              / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=17500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblu
              r=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.35 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=3:0.80
              x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.1
              x264 [info]: frame I:1024 Avg QP:16.59 size:237469
              x264 [info]: frame P:39422 Avg QP:17.71 size:115196
              x264 [info]: frame B:104245 Avg QP:18.13 size: 80650
              x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 6.0% 6.7% 15.4% 14.1% 15.3% 38.4% 2.7% 0.8% 0.9%


              IP属地:北京44楼2014-05-18 02:10
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                单纯从HDMaNiAcS里面两个压制者来看,似乎还是有点分别的。
                munkman 参数比较固定,基本上z只是变码率。(可能再根据画面干净与否调整deblock及ip_ratio)。这位喜欢psy_rd=0.9
                xarisandr会变动psy_rd及aq-mode和strength。
                当然作为top组,他们基本上都附上了x264的log,也就是最后根据码率自动量化出来的I/P/B三种帧的QP值,还有一个连续的B frame的分布。
                后面这个log是因为我看见某个ftp组转载出来的编码指南里面,建议先挑10000帧试编码,寻找一个合理的Bframe值,保证最大的连续Bframe占比低于1%。
                基本上能看见这些log的,都是比较重视质量的组。


                IP属地:北京45楼2014-05-18 10:24
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                  一直看原盘的路过,原盘秒一切


                  IP属地:上海来自Android客户端46楼2014-05-19 11:06
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                    喜欢/愿意收藏真人电影降噪后高压版本可以考虑FasM这个小组
                    从截图看细节保留得还可以。
                    http://someimage.com/3MtMW2t
                    不过他装神弄鬼的态度我不喜欢。
                    隐藏参数不说,编码器设成了
                    Writing Library : FASM Quality Enhancer Bitrate Squeezer X.5 (c)2013 Fachman


                    IP属地:北京47楼2014-05-23 15:12
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                      另一个HDWing的参数意外的合理并且有良心
                      Il.capitale.umano.2013.BluRay.1080p.x264.DTS-HDWinG 视频码率 11.8Mbps
                      crf 19并且用zones处理了部分很难压制的地方?
                      Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=11 / psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.00 / psy_rd=1.05:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=64 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0/ deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=24 / lookahead_threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / fgo=0 / bframes=12 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=120 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=19.0000 / qcomp=0.70 / qpmin=0:0:0 / qpmax=69:69:69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=62500 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.20 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:0.60 / aq-sensitivity=10.00 / aq-factor=1.00:1.00:1.00 / aq2=0 / aq3=0 / zones=0,365,crf=14.0/810,1258,crf=12.0/153112,159408,crf=25.0
                      DON压缩同一片720P的log里面
                      Notes
                      Deband the intro credits and one scene.
                      deband的部分是不是就是HDWing用Zones处理的开头部分?


                      IP属地:北京48楼2014-06-09 21:59
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                        300.Rise.of.an.Empire.2014.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-HDMaNiAcS.mkv
                        Format : Matroska
                        Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
                        File size : 14.4 GiB
                        Duration : 1h 42mn
                        Overall bit rate : 20.0 Mbps
                        Video
                        ID : 1
                        Format : AVC
                        Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
                        Format profile : High@L4.1
                        Format settings, CABAC : Yes
                        Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
                        Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
                        Duration : 1h 42mn
                        Bit rate : 18.5 Mbps
                        Width : 1 920 pixels
                        Height : 800 pixels
                        Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
                        Frame rate mode : Constant
                        Frame rate : 23.976 fps
                        Color space : YUV
                        Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
                        Bit depth : 8 bits
                        Scan type : Progressive
                        Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.502
                        Stream size : 13.0 GiB (90%)
                        Title : 300.Rise.of.an.Empire.2014.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-HDMaNiAcS
                        Writing library : x264 core 138 r2358kMod 9e941d1
                        Encoding settings
                        : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=tesa / subme=11 / psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.00 / psy_rd=1.10:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=18 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=18500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.35 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=3:0.80


                        IP属地:上海49楼2014-07-03 17:46
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                          fasm 1080p资源: 144部电影


                          IP属地:上海50楼2014-07-03 17:56
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                            CMCT-1080p 美国队长2
                            cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=11 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0/ bframes=6 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=22 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 /rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=11228 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=45000 / vbv_bufsize=45000 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00


                            IP属地:北京52楼2014-08-05 20:30
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                              比较喜欢high-code,publichd倒了之后现在还在哪里发片


                              IP属地:广东来自Android客户端53楼2014-10-16 14:39
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